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Description: New Auto 12 Gauge in Action

This updated/product-improved AA-12 shotgun is reportedly combat-reliable under adverse conditions, built like a tank (so it's highly rugged, or "ruggedized"), and, according to MPS, Inc. company officials, requires zero cleaning or lubrication (that's right, none). DefenseReview would think that eventually the guns would have to be cleaned at some point, but none of the AA-12 prototypes have required it, yet (and we're talking about many thousands of rounds fired through all of the prototypes, so far)--but more on that, later. The story gets even better: As it turns out, there's an exciting new family of 12-gauge (12ga.) shotgun rounds on the U.S. military horizon to go with the AA12 Shotgun, and it's called the FRAG-12. There are three members of the FRAG-12 munition family: the FRAG-12 High Explosive (HE), FRAG-12 High Explosive Fragmenting Antipersonnel (HEFA, or HE-FA), and FRAG-12 High Explosive Armor-Piercing (HEAP, or HE-AP). This unique and exciting shotgun ammunition has been designed and developed by the Experimental Cartridge Company, Ltd. and Action Manufacturing Inc.

The FRAG-12 family of 12-gauge ammo represents true "leap-ahead" or "transformational" technology with regard to the combat effectiveness and capability of 12-gauge combat/tactical shotguns in military infantry and, more specifically, urban warfare applications--provided that all variants perform as they were designed and developed to perform. Combining the FRAG-12 with the new Auto Assault-12 (AA-12) shotgun, which fires full-auto at 300 rpm (rounds-per-minute) would REALLY transform the combat capability for infantry combat shotguns. It's therefore important that the FRAG-12 rounds prove to be both reliable and accurate in actual operational deployment (i.e. tactical application), as well as safe to handle, store, ship, and fire (for the operator/shooter). If the FRAG-12 lives up to its billing, well then, folks, U.S. military combat shotguns just got some serious new life shot into them (excuse the pun), and will see a LOT more use on the 21st century battlefield, especially if the AA12-variant shotguns are purchased in large numbers by U.S. Armed Forces. It could happen.


According to the U.S. Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory's (MCWL) FRAG-12 Shotgun Ammunition Fact Sheet (PDF file), all three FRAG-12 rounds utilize a standard 3-inch 12-gauge cartridge case and propellant, which fires a fin-stabilized 19mm warhead with a MIL-SPEC 1316-compliant fuze assembly. The projectile arms after firing once it reaches 3 meters from the muzzle, and detonates on impact with the target. The FRAG-12 HE projectile, for instance, is designed to punch a one-inch diameter hole through 1/4-inch cold rolled steel plate, have a maximum effective range of 200 meters (200m), and reliably cycle/function in both gas-operated and recoil-operated tactical/combat shotguns. 200m is an impressive effective range for a 12-gauge tactical shotgun employed/deployed in infantry combat/urban warfare environments. The FRAG-12 HE-AP round incorporates a shaped charge to allow it to penetrate 1/2-inch steel armor plate. The Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) states that "the main reason for experimentation [with the FRAG-12 ammo family] is to examine these rounds as potential improvements to the combat-effectiveness of shotguns in urban areas [for urban warfare operations], using shotguns for stopping vehicles [vehicle interdiction] at roadblocks and checkpoints, barricade attack, and remote probing of potential Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs)."

The U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Dahlgren VA is supposed to be test-firing (or have already test-fired) 100 FRAG-12 HE rounds in order to "provide data on the round's reliability, safety, and handling characteristics. An additional 40 rounds of inert-loader FRAG-12 rounds have also been obtained for accuracy testing "where high-explosive projectiles are not allowed".
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Mine were never quite that fancy or pretty! Maybe it's the background?</ARTICLE>

 

Put me in for a case of them, I wish!

 

i have a problem with the Wilmington traffic stop because of the officers allready knew that they where looking for the truck and they should have done a felony stop with guns all ready out and ready to go ..

for the socalled signs where there and they did not follow them to keep the stop from going bad to worse .

 

I run roll my owns in all of my 1911s ... stuff with Gold Dots.

I like 9mm Federal Hyrashok 135s in my 226 and 92F - I figure it is good enough for the operators in Ghani, it is good enough for me.

 

Has anyone seen any reviews of this ammo or see anyone making something similar in .45ACP?

Guncrafter Industries : Specials
50 GI CHP

 

Federal 230 grain jhps.I too have a 1911.

 

Here's an informative article. One thing it left out, in my opinion, is the pressure of firing a round in an enclosed space (on the ear), for example, like a hallway in your home or having to fire from within your car.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/handgun-stopping-power/

 

There is a round called the Hirtenberger EMB that looks pretty nasty:

 

I see that you are using Hollow Points in your 1911, Do you ever experience jamming problems. I have a 1911 and a Taurus Pt945 the Taurus is based on the Colt 1911. Anything but a FMJ tends to jam. My son has a Taurus PT 24/7 .45acp, It is styled more like a Glock,He can shoot HP or FMJ and has no problems.

 

Just an FYI.. if anyone is near an Academy sports, they are carrying a plain white box of Winchester .40 sw. This ammo appears to be the same ammo used in their pdx1 product line. I paid $21 for a box of 50. I read on some other sites that this is "The confirmed FBI load" ...don't know if that is true or not but the bullet does have talons inside the hollow point like the pdx1 does.

 

Out and about Winchester Ranger 135 low recoil, my follow up shots are very accurate. I also run Hornady critical defense, At home it's 3 inch #4 turkey rounds.

 

7.62N steel jacket (not core) fragments.

 

Wonder if they still produce that now that Fiochi bought them out and where it can be found? I googled but with no luck.

 

Quick google search came up with these:


9mm Luger Fiocchi Extrema 92 Grain EMB 1325 fps 50 Round Box 9EMB



Ammo To Go : 50rds - 9mm Fiocchi Expansion Mono-Block 92gr. Self Defense Ammo [9EMB] - $24.95

Fiocchi 9MM Luger 92gr EMB (Expansion Mono-Block) 50rd - 9mm Luger - Handgun Ammunition - Ammunition

 

I am a hunter. I know shot placement is more important than what I shoot.

 

I like this ammo for my model 29
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I like any 230 grain HP loaded between 850-900 FPS. (I handload everything)

Who gives a sh*t if it doesn't expand... it's a 230 grain .45 slug.

(Seriously, this came from emptying my lead trap... most HP's don't expand after passing through any material...clothing, walls, furniture, glass, cars.... whatever. If it does, all the better. If it doesn't, it matters less so.) JMHO

 

Hornady Critical Defense in 9mm.

 

And the final answer is:
What ever is in the firearm you grab at the time you need to defend you/yours.

You have a firearm right? You've practiced or gone hunting with said firearm? You've hit what you aimed at? You know the effected range of said weapon with said ammo? and the firearm is loaded?

Then that's the right combination.