+1 more for the 357 over the 38. I have shot 10/22's and they are well worth the money, but for my money I'll take a 22 in lever action because I can put sorts, longs, and LR's in the same gun. With a semi-auto you feed it LR's unless you want to use it as a single shot. I have a henery lever action and feeds all 3 rounds well and with the very mild recoil you can put them through it at almost semi-auto speed. OGM
Most any semi auto will lead to some spray and pray play especialy from the beginers but one thing that tends to lead to more attention to detail can be if the shooting buddy or buddy in general teaches the person how to shoot accurately and then goes out shooting with them or at least shows them targets from range time with real nice tight groups. One neat deal for that can be useing a silohet and 'drawing' a face on it with the holes. When they see the experienced guy more interested in where the rounds go than how fast they spit them out (even if you do both) then most folks tend to want to be able to do the same and if you set them up with reactive targets (it breaks, spins, explodes or something cool when hit) that are not to hard to hit then make it progressively more difficult then tends to get intrest going in accuracy.
just a thought...most of us started out on single shot 22's.most dont have the experience of handling all the makes and models that some 'gun nuts' do...lol....so.....i seen a nice rifle/shotgun package.i seen it at Dick's...it is a 3 barrel set......22,20 gauge and a .243.this is all in a nice cloth case.keep it simple for beginners.....beware of the one gun man...he is good with it.this gun was priced at $199....this would leave a few bucks for a pistol and maybe some ammo.a big bang for the buck.
was it a rossi? that would deffinetly be a good start, teach how to hit with what he has first. thank you all for the info i see the point of the .357 as it can handle 2 calibers, i'll have him get touchy feely with a few weapons this weekend to see what best fits his hand/just feels right.
i think it was.......i seen the rifle oin their ads over the last few months sevral times.i own the rossi 22/410 it is a nice deal.they both shoot great.if i had seen the 3 barrel set sooner it would ahve been boguht instead.....just a thought.....those contender pistols/rifle ytou can cahnge barrels and grips and such are truely expensive.for 200 dollars you are getting the long arm version of their high priced guns....IMHO.add a pistol and you are set-up nice ofr the msot part.
+1 for the .357! Then after you go with the .357 revolver, then you can get a Marlin or Winchester .357 lever action rifle to compliment it. With the rifle, you won't get really long range, but you can still hunt with it under 100 yrds. And just imagine the .357 pistol round with extra punch if you need it. They make excellent truck guns and are a little less scary to the sheeple.
In light of recent threads around here, I can't help but toss in the air rifle for trainning,hunting and cheap backyard practice..$150 could very well start him off in a whole diffferent branch of shooting. As said elswhere"they are not toys".good luck ...
With recent discussions here, I've pretty much cemented my idea of the proper inexpensive beginners arsenal from which to build from. 3 guns: 22 rifle (pref 10/22) 38/357 revolver 12 ga Pump Then throw in the air rifle for the kids and build from there.
This might seem a little extreme but get them a sling-shot first and let them learn the potential of rapidly moving projectiles. Then kill something and let them watch. Write the formula down and let them decide if they can pull the trigger or get smoked themselves. They either stay a unarmed sheep or they'll face their own mortality and decide where to draw the line in the sand. Owning a gun does not make a person better able to defend themselves. Owning a recognition of what it takes to prevail does.
ok, we went shooting, and jim showed a preference of the semi auto to the revolver. with the hammer cocked on the revolver, his pattern wasn't to bad about 6 1/2" at 10 meters (i painted a bright red cross on the center mass of the b.g target) and also he showed quite a bit of patience on the .22 firing as rapidly with my bolt action as with the 1022.(that being said about one every 2-3 breaths) this weekend should be the larger center fire rifles
'Goodjob one more jsp for our side! Next casually slipa copy of the constitution into his shooting bag...
Here's an article I wrote one time: Basic Defensive battery: These are some of my ideas on a basic DEFENSIVE battery. Hunting shotguns, .22's... are not included. It pretty much doesn't matter what brand of those you use. It can be adapted as needed. Rifles: This is for people without alot of experence, gunsmithing skills, training... The rifle(s) should be durable, reliable, and capable of reliably killing mansized game. IF you live on the great Plains you will have specific needs, but otherwise most use of a rifle will be within 200 yards, and it is unlikely outside of 300 yards. As such I first pick the round: 7.62x39 And secondly pick the rifles: AK47's and SKS's. The reasons for this are: They use the same ammo, and stripper clips, both are EXTREMELY reliable, and they are relatively inexpensive. I personally have a WASR and I expect you will have no problems if you insure: The sites are straight. The trigger has the words "G2 Tapco" on the left side of it, and the magazine locks into place securely. I would buy the Ak's directly from Century due to the fact that if there is a problem you can call them, and they will pay for you to UPS it directly to them and they will fix or replace the rifle. http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.as...=&sprice=&pg=2 A blue Force gear sling http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/...oducts_id=2554 And a Pentagon light attached to the barrel with a clamp. http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/...oducts_id=2574 http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/...oducts_id=2096 My personal 'Happy spot' with rifle mags is 20. Do not get less than 10 per rifle. Here's a decent, inexpensive chest pouch: http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=132 SKS: Simple sling, (Usually included) and Stripper clips: http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....roducts_id/399 http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1621 http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=567 Pistols: I selected a Glock 19. http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm Here are the reasons: Many holsters, parts, and acessories avalable. Not much to be done except add night sites, and they can come with them. Parts, and mags are cheap Ammo for practice are inexpensive. Let me say one thing about the 9mm round. 'I' do not consider FMJ an effective stoper. If I carry 9mm it is Corbons: http://www.dakotaammo.net/ A decent and inexpensive holster and mag pouch is: http://glockmeister.com/catalog/inde...2202cd16c2433d I buy mags from CDNN: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/gl199mm15drf.html I picked these weapons due to their avalability, durability, and simplicity of controls. This is ment to simply be a good baseline, not a complete or final word.
