Peak Oil- what it is and how it will impact your life

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  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member


    January 2000

    occurred and via green pricing programs where restructuring​

    has not occurred.
    The National Wind Coordinating Committee was formed
    in 1994 by the American Wind Energy Association, Electric
    Power Research Institute, Edison Electric Institute, American
    Public Power Association, and the U.S. Department of
    Energy (DOE). The committee intends to plot an orderly
    path for the development of a self-sustaining commercial
    market for wind power.


    The Federal Role​


    The federal government provides technical assistance for​

    the development of wind energy through DOE’s Wind Energy
    Program, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory’s
    (NREL) National Wind Technology Center, and Sandia
    National Laboratories.
    The Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPACT) established a
    production tax credit of 1.5 cents per kilowatt-hour
    (adjusted for inflation) for electricity produced from
    facilities brought on line between January 1994 and July
    1999. The credit can be used for the first 10 years of the
    facility’s existence. Qualification for the tax credit will expire
    on December 31, 2001.


    State Experiences with Wind Power​


    California​


    Wind energy in California produced about 1.5 percent of​

    the state’s total electricity in 1997, more than enough to light
    a city the size of San Francisco. More than 13,000 of
    California’s wind turbines, or 95 percent of all of California’s
    wind generating capacity and output, are located in three
    primary regions: Altamont Pass (east of San Francisco),
    Tehachapi (southeast of Bakersfield), and San Gorgonio (near
    Palm Springs, east of Los Angeles). The roughly 3 billion
    kilowatt-hours produced each year by California’s wind
    turbines displace 2.1 million tons of CO2 that would
    otherwise be emitted by fossil fuel power plants.
    In 1995, these areas produced 30 percent of the world’s
    wind-generated electricity. Much of this capacity was installed
    during the 1980s, and almost all was planned, financed,
    installed, and operated by independent power producers—
    companies not affiliated with utilities. Most of the California
    wind capacity was installed in response to federal and
    California state legislation that provided a favorable market.
    The federal production tax credit is expected to increase
    California’s wind power capacity as older, less-efficient


    For More Information​


    The ​
    National Renewable Energy Laboratory operates the


    National Wind Technology Center ​
    and other wind-related
    programs for the U.S. Department of Energy.
    Tel: 303-275-3000
    Website: http://www.nrel.gov/wind/


    Sandia National Laboratories​
    , located in Albuquerque, New
    Mexico, has been involved in renewable energy technologies,
    including wind, for more than 20 years.
    Tel: 925-294-3000 and 505-844-3441
    Website: http://www.sandia.gov/Renewable_
    Energy/wind_energy/homepage.html


    DOE’s ​
    Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network


    provides information on wind energy.​

    Website: http://www.eren.doe.gov/RE/wind.html


    The ​
    National Wind Coordinating Committee provides a forum
    for identifying issues that affect the use of wind power.
    Tel: 888-764-WIND or 202-965-6398


    Website: ​
    http://www.nationalwind.org


    The ​
    American Wind Energy Association is a national trade
    association that represents hundreds of wind energy member
    companies and advocates from the United States and around
    the world.
    Tel: 202-383-2500
    Website: http://www.awea.org


    EPA’s State and Local Climate Change Program helps states​

    and communities reduce emissions of greenhouse gases in a
    cost-effective manner while they address other environmental
    problems.
    Website: http://www.epa.gov/globalwarming/ and click on
    “Public Decision Makers” under the “Visitors Center.”


    BENEFITS OF WIND ENERGY​


    • Reduced emissions of greenhouse gases, air pollutants,​

    and hazardous wastes.
    • Reduced reliance on imported energy.
    • No risk of fuel price hike.
    • Increased local job and business opportunities.
    • Quick construction with option to build in phases
    according to need.
    • Contribution to local economy through payment of
    property taxes and land rents.
    turbines are replaced with modern, larger, and taller units that
    generate 35-40 percent more electricity.


    Minnesota​


    The U.S. Department of Energy reported in 1991 that wind​

    energy in Minnesota could produce 657 terawatt-hours (625
    trillion watt-hours) of electricity annually from about 225
    gigawatts of wind energy capacity. Most of that capacity is
    along Buffalo Ridge, a geological formation that runs through
    portions of Minnesota, North and South Dakota, and Iowa.
    Commissioned in 1994, the Buffalo Ridge Windplant
    produces 25 megawatts of pollution-free electricity for sale to
    Northern States Power Company, a major Minnesota utility,
    under a long-term contract. Northern States Power secured
    approximately 2,000 acres of privately owned land under
    easement for construction of the Phase I wind towers. Corn
    and soybean crops continue to be grown and harvested in the
    fields surrounding the turbines.
    An additional 107 megawatts were commissioned in 1998,
    and another 175 megawatts in 1999. State mandates for clean
    power production will result in a total of 425 megawatts of
    new wind power plants by 2002 and 400 megawatts more by
    2012. By that time, the region’s wind plants will be capable of
    producing a total of 825 megawatts of electricity. This would
    offset approximately 1.7 million tons of CO2 emissions from
    fossil fuel power plants annually.


    A study conducted by Pacific Northwest Laboratory found that 20% of America’s electricity (560,000 kilowatt hours) could be provided by wind farms located on less than 1% of the land in the contiguous 48 states. Less than 5% of that land would be occupied by wind support structures, equipment or access roads. Generally, one turbine needs less than an acre of land.


    Germany remains the world leader with 18,428 MW of installed capacity. Spain is second with 10,027 MW of installed wind energy capacity, the United States is third with 9,149 MW, India is fourth with 4,430 and Denmark, which gets 20% of its electricity from the wind, is in fifth with 3,122 MW. The European Union hopes to increase its use of renewables to 22% by 2010, with much of this coming from wind power.
     
  2. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    We need to be developing every source that we can. Wind and solar are our best hope in the foreseable furure of offsetting some of the coming energy crunch.

    I am all for being proactive on things that are proven. It is the hope and faith in unknown factors that I see as a dangerous trend. Depending on science to come up with an as yet unknown cure or oil companies to suddenly discover vast unknown fields is to me a recipe for disaster.

    It's the old survivalists motto "Prepare for the worst, pray for the best."
     
  3. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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    I sincerely hope that deep water drilling produces some good finds. More work for me. I saw a documentary of old Aramco hands discussing the future of the oilfield and one guy said "someday they will develop a submarine that can sit on the ocean floor and drill, that is the next frontier for oil exploration."
    I would love to see that. I would volunteer in a heartbeat. But I just don't believe in putting too much hope in it. It may be a great bonanza or it may end up a money pit. And it could end up to be a case of too little too late.

    Debate Over Deep-Water Oil Exploration Heats Up In Mexico
    by Peter Millard
    Dow Jones Newswires 3/7/2008
    URL: http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=57967

    As Mexican oil production wanes, a heated debate is emerging over how to go about scouring deep areas of the Gulf of Mexico for new reserves.
    The country only has nine years left of proven oil reserves, and the Energy Ministry has warned that exports could dry up in less than a decade unless the industry boosts investment in new areas. That would tighten world oil supplies and strip Mexico of its biggest cash cow - Mexico relies on oil for more than a third of state revenue.
    State oil company Petroleos Mexicanos says deep water is the only solution.

    "We need to start working on deep water so that in 10 years we have the reserves to replace the fields that are currently declining," Pemex Chief Executive Jesus Reyes Heroles said in a statement Thursday.

    Pemex estimates that 55% of Mexico's prospective reserves lie in deep waters, where the company has only recently started to explore.
    The company launched a television ad this week saying it needs to obtain technology from other oil majors to rapidly develop the hydrocarbon treasures lying dormant in the Gulf.

    Not so fast, said Francisco Rojas Gutierrez, a former Pemex chief from the early 1990s.
    "Its risky," he told lawmakers at a forum on Thursday. "We can't rule out deep water at some time, but the solution is near the coast, in shallow water and on land."

    Rojas said there is no proof of the vast deep water reserves that Pemex anticipates, adding that it takes twice as long and 10 times as much money to develop in deep waters.
     
  4. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    I've commented before that my business is bittersweet. When the economy is struggling and oil prices are high that is when I am in the best shape financially. When the economy is good and prices are low, I am struggling. Right now is the best conditions I have seen since the 70's for oil industry workers. Especially someone like me with 30+ years experience.


    Talent Void a Top Five Business Issue for Oil and Gas Executives

    Ernst & Young 3/12/2008
    URL: http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=58192

    Nearly 90% of senior human resources (HR) executives at 22 top international oil and gas companies believe their industry faces a talent shortage and call the problem one of the top five business issues facing their companies. Working with Rice University, Ernst & Young LLP recently surveyed HR executives in the oil and gas industry to glean insights on the challenges of workforce recruiting and retention and how to overcome these challenges. Nearly all (88 percent) of the respondents agreed the shortage has the potential to impede growth and financial performance.
    Respondents were asked to rank the following issues on a one to 10 scale, with 10 representing a significant problem: corporate growth as a result of inability to staff projects was given an average score of 7; financial performance due to rising costs scored 6; innovation scored 6; operations/safety scored 6; and corporate reputation scored 5.

    "It is clear that the talent void in the oil and gas industry has transformed from an organizational challenge into a critical business issue," said Dina Pyron, a leader in the Human Capital practice within Ernst & Young's Global Oil & Gas Center. "The lack of key talent could potentially impact corporate growth, financial performance, safety and reputation. This should raise a red flag to leadership that immediate and innovative solutions are necessary."

    Some new approaches to turning the tide on the talent shortage include focus on the next generation. Ernst & Young suggests looking beyond Baby Boomers and focusing on recruiting and retention strategies designed for Gen X and Gen Y.

    According to the findings, the greatest threat to recruiting and retention is competition from counterparts within the industry. Respondents ranked competition from peer companies an eight out of 10, with 10 representing a major challenge. Also nearly unanimous was the industry's response to the problem: increased compensation. Eighty-eight percent of respondents cited increasing compensation as their primary solution to keeping and attracting talent.

    "Compensation is important, without a doubt, but the survey results show there is a real opportunity to do something different, stand out from the competition, lure new recruits and create loyalty among existing employees," said Bill Lee, associate dean of executive education for Rice University. "The first company with a break-out strategy could position itself as the leader in a highly competitive recruiting and retention environment."

    Show me the money!!!!!



    I wouldn't have suggested going into this business a few years ago, but the outlook for the future is looking very good. Especially compared to other industries that are struggling in this rapidly declining economy. The median wage for starting level positions is averaging around $20 an hour. And before anyone starts PMing me for leads, I am an independent contractor, I don't hire anyone. If you have young men who are looking to make a good income then look at the yellow pages in any major city in an oil producing state and look up "Oil Well Drilling Contractors". Don't bother applying to Oil Companies, they don't drill wells, they hire a contractor to drill them. Some of the largest domesticaly are Nabors, Helmrich and Payne, Noble, Pride, Patterson, and many others.
     
  5. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++

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    Issue with peak oil is proven reserves. the numbers get changed abit here and their depending on the price of oil. When a barrel of oil cost 20 bucks it was not worth going to a tundra and moving men and equipment up their to drill for oil not that same spot at lets say 100 bucks a barrel might be worth investing in it and those causing the curve to move around a bit. the problem is that even at 100 bucks no one has found anything remotely significant worth drilling into. Plus you have Mr hugo Chavez with his socialist views blowing money out the door and not investing in the state oil company PDVSA. The last issue is that with taxes on gas so high that is what makes prices so dam high. Break down the cost of fuel at a pump and figure out what really is the amount of taxes imposed on the fuel vs the amount of money the government takes. taxes beats the profits by a landslide. I personally think they should have reduced the taxes on fuel instead of giving this crappy tax cut of 600-1200 tax return BS. This would have indeed helped out small businesses stay afloat and helped out in the transportation sector. But again the GUbernment needs the money to fund Iraq.
     
  6. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    You make a really good point. The reason fuel prices are so different around the nation is largely because of taxes. The federal Government taxes it then the states get thier cut and the cities have thier slice of the pie. IIRC, the oil companies share of a gallon of gasoline is about 60%.
    And of course that is not profit, you have logistic costs to subtract from that. So that means that with $3 a gallon gas you are paying $1.20 in taxes.

    The people in Hawaii paying $4 a gallon would only be paying about $2.40 if the .gov would get thier fingers out of the pie.

    But you never hear the prostiticians saying that they need to reduce or eliminate the taxes to help out the working man. No they will raise the taxes on the oil companies producing it, which of course gets passed down to the consumer and results in higher prices.

    Then we have a major catch-22 in that if these new risky and expensive exploration projects are successful and find significant new discoveries, reducing the price of oil, then it wouldn't be feasible to continue exploring for it in those areas.

    A lot of these naysayers quote figures and prognostications of decades of oil left. That may be true, but how expensive will it be? Peak Oil is not about running out of oil, it is about running out of CHEAP oil. Those days are behind us, for good. we will never again see $1 a gallon gasoline. No matter how many new fields come on line in the future.

    The next time you hear these politicians bemoaning the "obscene profits" that the oil companies are making don't be fooled by thier smoke and mirror tactics. Oil companies are making more money than ever before, of course, but they are spending more than ever before to keep the oil flowing also. The costs of these "enhanced recovery" methods, these risky ventures into unknown areas, and yes (albiet good for me) the rising cost of expeienced personell, all are taking a huge bite out of those "record profits". Profits which by the way pale in comparison to the Medical industry, the pharmaceutical companies and others. The oil industry, even with these "obscene profits" only ranks #5.

    This punish the oil companies, thier gouging us rhetoric is successful only because of the ignorance among the general poulation as to how the oil industry works.

    For example when the Exxon Valdez oil spill occured there was a loud call to ban drilling in Alaska and in offshore waters.

    I would give people this scenario;
    You have a farmer growing tomatos, he hires a trucking company to transport his crop to market. The semi-truck driver is drunk, the truck has bad brakes and there is an accident on the interstate. The truck overturns and spills tomatos all over the highway. It is a huge mess and takes a lot of money to clean up. We don't want that to happen in the future so what do we do? Let's pass a law that the farmer can't grow anymore tomatos. That is absurd. We wouldn't do that, we would pass laws that insured that the trucking companies inspected thier vehicles, tested thier drivers. We would want safer trucks and more competent drivers, we wouldn't punish the farmer for growing tomatos.

    Yet that is exactly what was proposed in the wake of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. And millions of people were saying "yeah that's the solution."

    The transportation industry (the oil tankers) were responsible for having faulty equipment, unproffesional employees, and were directly liable for that spill, yet the cry was to punish the drilling industry who has nothing whatsoever to do with transportation. Ridiculus.

    So when we hear the politico's saying let's punish the oil companies for these high prices, you can look to them for the a good portion of the blame. Taxes, restrictions on drilling in many areas of the country, blocking the construction of new refineries and nuclear power plants. If anyone should be held accountable for our current high energy prices, and be punished for causing them, it should be the politicians in Washington, not the CEO's in Houston.
     
  7. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

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    I blame MM's expensive single malt collection...lol[booze][booze][beer]
     
  8. BigO01

    BigO01 Monkey+++ Founding Member

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    <TABLE class=wikitable><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=5>Taxes on Gasoline for Transportation by U.S. State in U.S. cents per gallon (25 July 2007)<SUP class=reference id=_ref-7>[9]</SUP></TH></TR><TR><TH>State</TH><TH>State gas excise tax</TH><TH>Other state taxes (general sales tax, average county/local sales tax, environmental fees, wholesale taxes)</TH><TH>State tax total</TH><TH>State + federal tax total</TH></TR><TR><TD>California</TD><TD>18.0</TD><TD>26.4 (7.25% + 1.2)</TD><TD>44.4</TD><TD>62.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Connecticut</TD><TD>25.0</TD><TD>18.9 (7%)</TD><TD>43.9</TD><TD>62.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>New York</TD><TD>8.0</TD><TD>32.9</TD><TD>40.9</TD><TD>59.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rhode Island</TD><TD>27.0</TD><TD>4.0</TD><TD>31.0</TD><TD>49.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Maine</TD><TD>27.6</TD><TD>1.5</TD><TD>29.1</TD><TD>47.5</TD></TR><TR><TD>U.S. Average</TD><TD>28.6</TD><TD>10.2</TD><TD>28.5</TD><TD>46.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Massachusetts</TD><TD>21.0</TD><TD>2.5</TD><TD>23.5</TD><TD>41.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Vermont</TD><TD>19.0</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>38.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>New Hampshire</TD><TD>18.0</TD><TD>1.6</TD><TD>19.6</TD><TD>38.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>New Jersey</TD><TD>10.5</TD><TD>4.0</TD><TD>14.5</TD><TD>32.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Alaska</TD><TD>8.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8.0</TD><TD>26.4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Funny the US average as of last year according to this was only 46.9 cents per gallon and that is as you can see state and Fed taxes combined , not the well over a $1 figure you come up with Minuteman .

    Fact of the matter is the taxes have stayed the same while the Prices and profits for the oil companies have soared .

    Do a little searching on the web and you'll find the oil companies have made Billions of dollars in profits EVERY year for decades .

    Perhaps people just don't understand that Profit means after everything else is taken out , taxes , all expenses including any exploration for the future and of course the huge salaries the CEO's get paid .

    How many Billions of dollars is enough to stick in your pockets every year Minuteman ? Obviously not 4 or 9 or even the 40+ the companies are now up to .

    Don't know what your bonus's are Minuteman but you certainly earn them with the propaganda you spread around on the web to protect the industry profits/ripoffs .

    Hitler and Stalin would be proud .
     
  9. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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    I was using the formula of 60% per gallon. That I prefaced with " If I Recall Correctly. It may have been 60 cents per gallon profit. I don't keep those kind of statistics close at hand.
    So IIRC, Californians were paying what? About $3.10 a gallon last July?
    So minus the 63 cents (rounded up from 62.8) of combined taxes according to this report, they could have been paying only $2.48 a gallon if the politicians really wanted to do something to lower prices.

    I stand corrected.

    And BTW, all through the 80's when you were paying $1 or less per gallon for your gasoline I was struggling to keep from losing everything I had. I was sleeping in my car or if fortunate, living in a motel. I made as little as $12,000 in 1981. I was forced to go overseas in the 90's, for the mega salary of $2,800 a month, in order to have steady employment. Because the American people would rather pay .90 cents a gallon for gasoline from cheap Saudi oil than pay $1.50 for what we could produce here in the U.S.

    Our (and I include myself in that) staunch refusal to conserve, our demand for cheap fuel, our "not in my backyard" attitude to new refineries, new drilling, our demanding our "right" to drive oversized gas guzzlers and fuel them with the cheapest fuel possible, has contributed to the situation that we face today.

    It's like Pogo said "We have met the enemy, and he is us."
     
  10. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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    Her's another chart for you. From around the same time


    PRICE OF GAS AROUND THE WORLD
    Prices
    are quoted in US dollars per gallon for regular unleaded.


    Hong
    Kong

    $6.25



    London,
    UK

    $5.96


    Tokyo,
    Japan

    $5.25


    New
    Delhi,
    India

    $3.71


    Johannesburg,
    South Africa

    $3.39


    Buenos
    Aires
    ,
    Argentina

    $2.09


    Chicago, illinois

    $3.48



    YOU'RE GONNA LOVE THIS ...

    Kuwait

    $0.78



    Caracas,
    Venezuela

    $0.12




    Riyadh,
    Saudi Arabia

    $0.87


    So what is the difference between London, Hong Kong, the U.S. and Kuwait, Saudi and Venzuela? The taxes they pay. That and the government subsidizing and or controling the industry.





     
  11. S&P

    S&P E&E w/AR

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    What To Do About Gasoline Prices
    by Walter Williams (August 31, 2005)
    Nationally, the average per gallon price for regular gasoline is $2.50.

    Are gasoline prices high? That's not the best way to ask that question. It's akin to asking, "Is Williams tall?" The average height of U.S. women is 5'4", and for men, it's 5'10". Being 6'4", I'd be tall relative to the general U.S. population. But put me on a basketball court, next to the average NBA basketball player, and I wouldn't be tall; I'd be short. So when we ask whether a price is high or low, we have to ask relative to what.

    In 1950, a gallon of regular gasoline sold for about 30 cents; today, it's $2.50. Are today's gasoline prices high compared to 1950? Before answering that question, we have to take into account inflation that has occurred since 1950. Using my trusty inflation calculator (www.westegg.com/inflation), what cost 30 cents in 1950 costs $2.33 in 2005.

    In real terms, that means gasoline prices today are only slightly higher, about 8 percent, than they were in 1950. Up until the recent spike, gasoline prices have been considerably lower than 1950 prices.

    Some Americans are demanding that the government do something about gasoline prices. Let's think back to 1979 when the government did do something. The Carter administration instituted price controls. What did we see? We saw long gasoline lines, and that's if the gas station hadn't run out of gas. It's estimated that Americans used about 150,000 barrels of oil per day idling their cars while waiting in line. In an effort to deal with long lines, the Carter administration introduced the harebrained scheme of odd and even days, whereby a motorist whose license tag started with an odd number could fill up on odd-numbered days, and those with an even number on even-numbered days.

    With the recent spike in gas prices, the government has chosen not to pursue stupid policies of the past. As a result, we haven't seen shortages. We haven't seen long lines. We haven't seen gasoline station fights and riots. Why? Because price has been allowed to perform its valuable function -- that of equating demand with supply.

    Our true supply problem is of our own doing. Large quantities of oil lie below the 20 million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).

    The amount of land proposed for oil drilling is less than 2,000 acres, less than one-half of one percent of ANWR. The U.S. Geological Survey estimates there are about 10 billion barrels of recoverable oil in ANWR. But environmentalists' hold on Congress has prevented us from drilling for it.

    They've also had success in restricting drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and off the shore of California. Another part of our energy problem has to do with refining capacity. Again, because of environmentalists' successful efforts, it's been 30 years since we've built a new oil refinery.

    Few people realize that the U.S. is also a major oil-producing country. After Saudi Arabia, producing 10.4 million barrels a day, then Russia with 9.4 million barrels, the U.S. with 8.7 million barrels a day is the third-largest producer of oil. But we could produce more. Why aren't we?

    Producers have a variety of techniques to win monopoly power and higher profits that come with that power. What's a way for OPEC to gain more power?

    I have a hypothesis, for which I have no evidence, but it ought to be tested. If I were an OPEC big cheese, I'd easily conclude that I could restrict output and charge higher oil prices if somehow U.S. oil drilling were restricted. I'd see U.S. environmental groups as allies, and I would make "charitable" contributions to assist their efforts to reduce U.S. output. Again, I have no evidence, but it's a hypothesis worth examination.
     
  12. S&P

    S&P E&E w/AR

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    Who Is Gouging Whom?
    by David Holcberg (May 26, 2007)

    Last Wednesday the House of Representatives passed legislation instituting penalties of up to $150 million for companies and up to $2 million and 10 years' imprisonment for individuals found guilty of gasoline "price gouging." But the real gouger driving up gasoline prices is not the private sector, it is our government.

    To "gouge" means to extort, to take by force--something that oil companies and gas stations have no power to do. Unlike a government, which can forcibly take away its citizens' money and dictate their behavior, an oil company can only make us an offer to buy its products, which we are free to reject.

    Because sellers must gain the voluntary consent of buyers, and because the market allows freedom of competition, oil and gasoline prices are set, not by the whim of companies, but by economic factors such as supply and demand. If oil companies could set prices at will, surely they would have charged higher prices in the 1990s, when gasoline was under one dollar a gallon!

    Because oil companies and gas stations cannot set their prices arbitrarily, they must make their profits by earning them--by efficiently producing something that we value and are eager to buy. In so doing, they assume great risks and expend enormous effort. Over the decades, oil companies have created a huge infrastructure to produce and distribute gasoline by investing hundreds of billions of dollars in prospecting, drilling, transporting, stocking and refining oil.

    In the absence of political factors like the 1973 OPEC oil embargo or the Gulf Wars, the net effect of oil companies' pursuit of profit has been to drive the price of oil and gasoline, not up, but down. The price of a gallon of gasoline (in 2006 dollars) fell from $3 in the early 1920's to $2.50 in the 1940's to $2 in the 1960's to under $1.50 in the 1990's. This downward trend is all the more impressive because it required the discovery and exploration of previously inaccessible sources of oil and because it persisted despite massive taxation and increased government regulation of the oil industry.

    When we see the price of gasoline today, we should not accuse oil companies of gouging, but rather thank them that prices are not much higher.

    The true culprit that we should condemn for driving up prices is the government, which has engaged--with popular support--in the gouging of both the producers and consumers of gasoline.

    Federal and state governments have long viewed gasoline taxes as a cash cow. In 2003, for instance, when the average retail price for a gallon of gasoline was $1.56, federal and state taxes averaged about $0.40 a gallon--which amounts to a far higher tax rate, 34 percent, than we pay for almost any other product. (Contrary to popular belief, gasoline taxes do not just pay for the roads we drive on; less than 60% of the gas-tax-funded "Highway Trust Fund" goes toward highways.)

    Along with high taxes, environmental regulations--justified in the name of protecting nature from human activity--have dramatically increased the production costs, and thus the price, of oil and gasoline.

    The government, for example, has closed huge areas to oil drilling, including the uninhabited wilderness of ANWR and the out-of-sight waters over the Atlantic and Pacific continental shelves. This of course significantly reduces the domestic supply of oil.

    The government has also passed onerous environmental regulations that make it uneconomical for many old refineries to keep producing (50 out of 194 refineries were shut down from 1990 to 2004) and discourage new refineries from being built (no major refinery has been built in the last 30 years).

    Regulations such as these push the surviving refineries to operate at almost full capacity, creating a situation where any significant reduction in the production of some refineries (e.g., from a hurricane) cannot be compensated by increased production in others. Exorbitant spikes in prices, which many attribute to oil companies' "gouging," are actually caused by government constraints.

    If we want to stop the irrational forces that have been driving up the price of gasoline and our cost of living, we must demand that our elected officials eliminate the regulations and excessive taxes that restrict the producers of oil and gas. It's past time to stop gouging oil companies--and ourselves.
     
  13. S&P

    S&P E&E w/AR

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    Running Out of Oil
    by Walter Williams (July 19, 2006)
    "Proven" oil reserves, oil that's economically and technologically recoverable, are estimated to be more than 1.1 trillion barrels. That's enough oil, at current usage rates, to fuel the world's economy for 38 years, according to Leonardo Maugeri, vice president for the Italian energy company ENI. Mr. Maugeri provides a wealth of information about energy in "Two Cheers for Expensive Oil," published by Foreign Affairs (March/April 2006) and reprinted on the same date in Current.

    There are an additional 2 trillion barrels of "recoverable" reserves. Mr. Maugeri says these oil reserves will probably meet the "proven" standard in a few years as technological improvement and increased sub-soil knowledge come online. Estimates of recoverable oil don't include the huge deposits of "unconventional" oil such as Canadian tar sands and U.S. shale oil, plus there are vast areas of our planet yet to be fully explored. For decades, alarmists have claimed we're running out of oil. In 1919, the U.S. Geological Survey predicted that world oil production would peak in nine years. During the 1970s, the Club of Rome report, "The Limits to Growth," said that, assuming no rise in consumption, all known oil reserves would be entirely consumed in just 31 years.

    There are several factors that explain today's high prices. There has been a huge surge in demand for oil as a result of rapid economic growth in China and India, as well as in the United States. Another factor is the under-exploration. Mr. Maugeri says Saudi Arabia has 260 billion barrels of proven reserves, accounting for 25 percent of the world's total, but only one-third of the oil known to lie below its surface. Russia's reserves are three times its proven reserves of 50 billion barrels. While high prices are beginning to stimulate investments in oil exploration, they've lagged for several decades out of fear of oil gluts and low prices. It's going to be 2010 before today's investments yield fruit.

    A substantial increase in oil production alone cannot ease today's high prices because of weak refining capacity. Not a single refinery has been built in the United States for 30 years. Improvements to existing refineries failed to keep up with growing demand and tougher environmental regulations. We're the world's only industrialized country with a net deficit in refining capacity that comes to 20 percent of domestic demand. That makes us highly vulnerable to disasters like last year's hurricanes. Exacerbating weak refining capacity are regulations whereby gasoline produced for one state may not be sold in another. There are 18 mandated different types of gasoline sold in the United States.

    The long-term outlook for oil is good. There's an increase in oil-drilling technology and exploration. Oil as a source of energy has been in decline. In 1980, oil was 45 percent of energy consumption; today, it's 34 percent, yielding ground to natural gas, coal and nuclear energy. Recently, the House of Representatives passed "The Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act of 2006," which now awaits a Senate vote. Offshore oil exploration has been banned since 1982, despite Department of the Interior estimates that suggest the presence of 19 billion barrels of oil and 84 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. The House of Representatives also passed the "Refinery Permit Process Schedule Act of 2006." Should these measures become law, our energy capacity will be enhanced significantly.

    America stands alone in the world as the only nation that has placed a substantial amount of its domestic oil and natural gas potential off-limits. That reflects the awesome control that radical environmentalists have over Congress. With high fuel prices, Americans might be ready to put an end to that control.
     
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  15. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    Very informative posts S&P. Thanks.

    The worst thing that could happen to us is for the government to heed the cry to "do something".

    If you think prices are high now, wait until the politicians get involved.

    Unfortunately there will always be those who would rather blame it all on a fairy tale than see the real cause and effect reasons and from that the only real solutions.

    I saw this from the Washington Post this morning. This is just a snippet of the article.Read it in it's entirety at this link
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/14/AR2008031403677.html


    A Crude Case For War?

    Five years after the United States invaded Iraq, plenty of people believe that the war was waged chiefly to secure U.S. petroleum supplies and to make Iraq safe -- and lucrative -- for the U.S. oil industry.

    We may not know the real motivations behind the Iraq war for years, but it remains difficult to distill oil from all the possibilities. That's because our society and economy have been nursed on cheap oil, and the idea that oil security is a right as well as a necessity has become part of our foreign policy DNA, handed down from Franklin D. Roosevelt to Jimmy Carter to George H.W. Bush. And the war and its untidy aftermath have, in fact, swelled the coffers of the world's biggest oil companies.

    But it hasn't happened in the way anyone might have imagined.

    Instead of making Iraq an open economy fueled by a thriving oil sector, the war has failed to boost the flow of oil from Iraq's giant well-mapped reservoirs, which oil experts say could rival Saudi Arabia's and produce 6 million barrels a day, if not more. Thanks to insurgents' sabotage of pipelines and pumping stations, and foreign companies' fears about safety and contract risks in Iraq, the country is still struggling in vain to raise oil output to its prewar levels of about 2.5 million barrels a day.

    "If we went to war for oil, we did it as clumsily as anyone could do. And we spent more on the war than we could ever conceivably have gotten out of Iraq's oil fields even if we had particular control over them," says Anthony Cordesman, an expert on U.S. strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who rejects the idea that the war was designed on behalf of oil companies.

    "When we first decided on the war, I don't remember oil playing an important part," says Brent Scowcroft, national security adviser under the elder Bush and a critic of the current president's decision to invade.

    But that's because concern about oil supplies is part of the architecture of U.S. foreign policy. Scowcroft notes that oil can't be disregarded because Iraq and its neighbors sit on two-thirds of the world's oil reserves. But oil needn't be mentioned either because it's self-evident.

    War critics might call that the perfect conspiracy.

    In a sense, though, all Americans are part of that conspiracy. We have built a society that is profligate with its energy and relies on petroleum that happens to be pooled under some unstable or unfriendly regimes. We have frittered away energy resources with little regard for the strategic consequences. And now it's hard and expensive to change our ways.
    gas-prices-march-2008. War & Peace.
     
  16. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    I got a call this morning from my diesel supplier. We use about 1,500 gallons a day on this drilling rig. He said to give him plenty of advanced notice when we needed a load delivered. The refineries in Chorpus Christi have started rationing diesel. They are only allowing a set number of loads for each supplier per week.

    I drive a diesel pickup and I paid $3.79 a gallon in Austin last week.
     
  17. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    Man thats bad, it 4.03
     
  18. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    Going higher too I'm afraid.
     
  19. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    yea, soon there will be lot of cheaper diesel trucks for sale [beer]
     
  20. BigO01

    BigO01 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Re: Peak Oil; what it is and how it will impact your life

    Ah yes break out the pie and graph charts to prove how the oil companies needed to raise prices when they were already making BILLIONS IN PROFIT EVERY YEAR .

    Reminds me of an old RKBA article in Guns & Ammo in the 70's , the Antis had all kinds of charts and studies to show why guns should be banned because they are so dangerous to owners of them .

    Funny thing is when those who had access to all of the same data the Antis did and took the time "Which was often considerable" to delve into all of the so called "FACTS" the Anti's had , their numbers were always manipulated one way or the other to come up with the answer they wanted .

    Although I can't remember who wrote that article I do recall one glaring truthful statement in it towards the end "Figures lie and liars figure" .

    And all of this really doesn't address a few basic questions .

    Did the oil companies honestly need to increase their prices and profits at the expense of an entire Nations economy ?

    What are they going to do when improvements in electric technology and changes in the auto industry attitudes put a million electric cars on the roads and then the Oil companies honestly have something to cry about because that's a million cars not using their damn gasoline or at the least if they are efficient hybrids damn little of it compared to today .

    Will they still claim we're at "Peak Oil" and continue raising prices when demand has dropped by 30 or 60% and Americans have made the adjustment in their habits to organize the use of their automobiles ?

    Fact is they overplayed their hand since the price increase directly corresponds with the huge raise in profits and they have pissed Americans off and they have begun demanding totally gasoline free vehicles .

    People can adjust and limit their driving to 50 miles a day "which is at least the range of the E-cars of yesterday" how will the oil companies adjust without the Billions of consumer dollars for profit ?

    Tango claimed I wanted a "Perpetual motion Machine" when I suggested that an Ecar could recharge itself as the wheels turned , and implied it isn't a possibility , yet what do you have with GM's new Volt ?

    This from the website

    http://www.chevrolet.com/electriccar/
    So you see when they figure a way to reduce the size of the battery packs there really is no reason that they can't use 2 and alternate from one to the other and as the vehicle travels recharge the one not being used .

    My V6 engine in my Blazer is only rated at 200 horse power and they already have 250 HP electric motors , more than enough extra power to use a serpentine belt system run to alternators to recharge battery packs .

    The new Tesla Roadster is a giant leap in E technology with a range of 200 miles and a speed of over 100 MPH wait till they come out with a SUV that only needs a range of say 150 miles and a top speed of 65 MHP .

    As they throw themselves into the developement of this and improvements are made it wont be more than a decade or so and Americans can drive our huge vehicles like the Hummers and 2 ton pickups completely gasoline free .

    So in the end all "Peak Oil" is along with it's huge price increases is the sound of the Oil Industry shooting itself in the foot , all it will take is for Americans to remember one simple rule "**** me once shame on you , **** me twice shame on me" The oil companies are trying it for the last time and will soon find themselves begging for people to buy their products .

    Don't think it'll Happen ?

    Wait till the light bulb comes on and the E-car designers relize that the space where a traditional gas tank is can now be used to store a second battery pack under the car instead of in the engine compartment , which under a truck is considerable space for a 20 gallon gas tank .
     
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