One Rifle

I know guys who have been hit by .22 and not known it til much later.

Be sure and check out bundle bows as well, and para SUCKS as a bowstring, fyi.

 

There can be only one. To quote another movie. Choose Wisely. To quote another.

 

It was a shot from the side. Same Angle I killed her with at 10 yards with my crossbow. Same angle I kill almost every deer from and I have killed hundreds. It always turns into a gun fight when ever these threads come up. One rifle, one gun , etc. etc. The only purpose of these type threads , the only real value to these type threads is the debate over caliber, weight, how many can you carry etc. etc. etc. etc. The U.S. military deemed that the 5.56 was going to be the main rifle carried by most of our troops. Why? high velocity, accurate and the ammo is light . Means you can carry a lot of them. I own two. But my .22 will be far more valuable in a post P.A.W. type world. From deer to small birds, rodents, cats dogs, just about everything in my A.O. Im not in the bug out crowd. I have them all and will use them all. Im certainly not going to waste good center fire ammo on game like deer. I have see the pvc and field expedient bows. Now there is a real joke. Try and find an actual hunt on film where a deer is killed using a field expedient weapon. No thanks , Ill take my .22 and put it against any other weapon for harvesting small game . I head shoot Chipmunks for practice here at ranges out to 30 yards. Try that with a home made stick bow. Shoot a squirrel with a .308 or even a .223 . LET ME KNOW WHAT IS LEFT. Shotguns , big bore rifles, and small calibers like the .17 and the .22 all have their place in my arsenal. Nope there cant be just one. In my house there are many and we use them all.

The question of what gun is best is best answered by where you are.

 

It would be a better statement to say that a politician decided that we would carry the m16...

 

And the round that it was chambered for.

 

You can also scavenge other firearms. Which is why here in Michigan we have at least one 30-06, one 30-30 , 5.56 /.223 and both gauges in Shotguns. But the bulk of the work here will fall on the .22 long rifle , CCI cb shorts , and quiets . I am counting on more shooting game than combat scenarios. But we have a lot of combat weapons as well. And bows and cross bows axes, Knives, And host of other things we wont talk about.

There were also combo guns made in .223 under .22 long rifle. But I would if I was a bug out guy carry an ar-15 with 240 rounds in magazines and several boxes of extra ammo. Then that little fold up .22 pak rifle with a small scope and several hundred rounds for it. Like I said I wont settle for just one EVER.

 

Having common calibers is very important to me. Just about every house in this state has a deer rifle. Most are 30-30 or 30-06. Sure there .308, 7mm, and a lot of odd calibers like the 6.8, 6.5, And quite a few 7.62 by 39 around. THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF 20 And 12 gauge shotguns in Michigan. I would have to say also that the AR-15 has a large following here. Every man in our Militia team has the same model ar-15 (Anderson builds). However I would bet THE 30-30 would be the most likely find and the most likely rifle used to attack us here. All around us is dense forested hilly timber with streams, rivers and lakes all jumbled up into one big tangle. The road is where anyone would come at us from unless they knew exactly where we were. It really would take a very organized and large force to even get close to the homes here. They would pay a terrible price in lives lost if they try. Bugged in? you have resupply, food, help, shelter, water, and you are master of your terrain. You know every trail, every tree, every trap. You know where the ambushes are, the cover and fake cover. The Russians and the Germans ww2. Pickets charge civil war. And so on. People dug in defending their homes are no one to mess with.

And as BT POST has stated, if you can only afford one gun? make it something you are good with, trust and has ammo you can count on.

 

lost all mine in canoeing accident.... <sigh>

 

I wouldn't bother with the stones unless you like shrapnel. Do any reenacting?

 

I, uh, sell them for a living...hit me up if you want a historical perspective on shooting them/tips and tricks. I only know a few, but they are good ones.

 

I might could sell you a finished one for that price. Haha.

 

I purchased a Marlin 981-t bolt action .22 the last year before they were bought out by Remington. It was the best buy for under 200 BUCKS I ever made. I topped it with a Redfield Revolution 2 BY 7 BY 40 WITH VARMINT cross hairs . I have it dialed in dead nuts at 20 yards and can shoot the center out of dimes with it. It take 10 minutes to go from CCI CB SHORTS to re sight it for long rifle. CB shorts are very quiet , like a pellet gun. All small game like rabbits , squirrels , birds, and even head shots on Geese fall to this little round. 710 feet per second 29 grain bullet. A couple clicks on the scope and Im shooting long rifle rounds and can take any small game up to deer. The rifle is very accurate out to 125 yards and dials in nice at 100. Cant beat it for the money. I have had the Glenfield model 60, the Ruger 10-22 and none of them match up. wE STILL HAVE AN OLD REMINGTON NYLON. Its pretty reliable but again not as accurate. My father in law bought the Remington version of this rifle and its not as accurate but a little better than the old Ruger 10-22 I had. I have no experience with the Henry AR-7 but it was the standard issue for para resuce troops for a long time.

 

The entire bug Idea is a no go for me but if I had to the lightest compliment of arms and the most ammo I could carry would be the way I would go. Ar-15 for defense and a very small light weight but accurate .22 for food gathering plus a side arm.

 

I bought a used Browning A-Bolt .22 in the late 80's for $125. It would be the last rifle I would sell, pity they only made them a couple of years. Dead bang stupid accurate, the hole at 25 yards is covered by the cross hairs of my Leupold 4x scope so I have to move the rifle slightly to see it.

I also love those CB .22's. Almost non existent recoil and about as loud a clap of the hands. Takes care of urban pests nicely without raising attention and my favorite round (and rifle) for training others.

 

Bad situation man. You need a DESTINATION. If you going to run from city you need a place to go. A friend, relative, or a lonely piece of federal land with a buried cache near like a spring or small creek that is cold and clean. We bugged out in 2008 ahead of what we thought was the end. We were wrong but glad we live here now. House on a small private lake surrounded by thousands of acres of federal forests. We share it with 7 families and another house is being built as I type. All but one is part of our group and they will run TO THE CITY , to the government, to the fema with their hands out. The rest of us will not. We have worked on our plan for the last 4 years really hard. Nothing like a hotbed of survivalists on a friday night cook out and party ha ha ha . But if you have to bug out you need to practice it now. Do the walk or bike or even by car . HOW MUCH can you carry? do you have the gear to load what you need out? I have seen so many guys have a plan then try and carry it and end up cutting way down on supplies to carry more fire power or cut way back on fire power to carry more food and water etc. etc. Nothing easy about it. Which is why Im glad we moved when we did. My wife can not walk so to leave here it is by car, quad, jeep or truck. She can also ride a horse or a mountain bike.

 

.....has the quality of the Henry Rifles improved over the Charter Arms made version ? I ask as between three friends and I we owned 4x of the Charter Arms versions back in the 80s and they were simply the greatest heaps of unreliable crap I have ever encountered. I do not believe I ever emptied an entire 7 round magazine without a stoppage from mine before the trigger mechanism self destructed. One other went out the same way and everyone else ditched them asap. I believe the Armalite made version worked so the design has merit, just have not heard anything about the Henry version. The AR7 is a great concept !!!! No question at all.

 

I've run a couple thousand rounds through a henry back in the mid-2000's. I like it, sold it to make bills in college, looking hard at getting another one at some point. Looking at a lot of guns, but one is on my list.