King James Bible... Why do we put our faith in it?

Discussion in 'Faith and Religion' started by fl4848, May 19, 2023.


  1. orangetom1999

    orangetom1999 On Hiatus Banned

    by Zimmy.....

    been rethinking this by you Zimmy....

    I tend to agree..though I do not know that much about them per se...

    There are a lot of Goddie stories in the Dead Sea Scrolls....God Like Stories......but there is one interesting fact...and that is there is one Book of the Bible Complete in the Dead Sea Scrolls...and that is the Book of Isaiah...just as we have it in the King James Version... And this too is a facet seldom told to people.....,as if we are never to know this information.

    This world does not like the King James version and I think because it is more difficult to misquote and mis teach from the King James Version then from the newer translations.


    The new Translations...many from the Wescott and Hort versions often use what they term ....the oldest and best Manuscripts..

    What one discovers when researching is that these are not the Oldest Manuscripts and thus puts a huge question mark in the claim of the Best Manuscripts.

    Orangetom
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  2. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Old testament law was severe, if your bull got out and hurt some one, YOU were fully responsible.
    God showed me that this law was in place to ensure a neighbor was looking out for his neighbor. it also ensured good relations between neighbors. if you have ever lived in a small community you would understand this.
    People were dependent on one another. There was no fire department, there was one another.
    Point is, laws were in place to inspire people to love one another, if you didn't you lost them.
    You may not feel obligated to others, but you are, God said so.
    The Holy Spirit can teach many things, if you are looking for HIM to do the teaching and you are willing to put aside your previously conceived ideas brought about by men's teaching.
    I have been to bible school and done correspondence bible courses and still it all boils down to the relationship one has with the Holy Spirit Jesus sent to teach those under His lordship.
    Academics do not make a better Christian, Prayer does.
    Jesus said, "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after "righteousness" for they shall be filled."
    On judgment day the excuse of academics will not fly, nor the miracles done in Jesus' name, but those that have been under the tutelage of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 7;21,22,23,
    If God is one's teacher, he will know what God wants of him when it becomes necessary.
    if one is second guessing God there is no trust.
     
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  3. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    I was raised as a Catholic. Imagine my surprise when I found out there was a boatload more 'Book of" bible parts not found in the Catholic version. I'm over that now, so it's all good.
     
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  4. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    I'm a Protestant. Imagine my surprise when I found out there was a boatload more 'Book of' Bible part not found in the Protestant version. Old Matin Luther removed several books and wanted to remove some more. Having recently read the KJV, I now have to buy and read those books included in the Catholic Bible, plus those books that were banned from the Bible.
     
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  5. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I'm far from an expert but I am a victim of lifelong curiosity.

    There are Armenian, Ethiopian, and Orthodox bibles out there to read and read about from their experts. I'm going to try the Ethiopian first of the three. I suppose I pray about what I read and learn and follow the parts that have a ring of truth.

    Some books ring, most fall flat. Some are obvious social engineering to help civilizations grow and mature.

    I'm not going to name the ones I don't hear the ringing in. It is not fair of me to attack another person making their own spiritual journey.
     
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  6. orangetom1999

    orangetom1999 On Hiatus Banned

    Now...I ;;;propose a line of thought for some of you members here...in line with confusion...or if you prefer the author of confusion...,

    This line of thought concerning what is happening in our country ...in what tries to pass for leadership...in this country.

    And that line of thought going on in this country ...is confusion ...chaos....particularly with the illegals being wholesale brought across the border..by educated, enlightened, illuminated, leadership.

    What it is doing ...and if you watch the reaction of leadership with this constant barrage of blame game for what they have created in confusion and chaos.... is tabloid leadership.....

    Politics is becoming rapidly tabloid like..

    The question for Americans, able to think past the Kardashians, and or ESPN and the like....is whether this is in fact leadership or deliberate tabloid like confusion and is tabloid ...really leadership.??

    Once again...are we and you in partkicular ever supposed to think this far outside the box.. without first consulting "Experts?"..

    Be warned these Ishmaelites who specialize in Tabloid leadership and confusion ...in both political parties..

    Oh...and by the way....in case some of you have not noticed or connected the dots...this is exactly what is happening in Europe and the UK...this same Tabloid like confusion and or chaos ...in bringing in all these illegals..it is creating massive chaos and confusion ...if not in inflation chaos alone...being used to finance it.

    Watch France..but it will eventually spread to other nations housing massive illegals...

    Is planned engineered tabloid chaos ..the same thing as good leadership.?????

    And are you ever supposed to think this far outside the box????

    Wow....are you ever supposed to vote this far outside the box?????


    I met a man years ago....who was at one time the dean of economics at Bob Jones University...and he stated....after observing many other nations...and their economics...he stated that these nations can never become like the United States...but......The United States can become like these nations.

    Catching on yet....about Globalism ?????

    Give me the name of the god of this world?????

    Now...that should put a bit of Light...onto what is the true nature of Tabloid leadership and the chaos and confusion they are manufacturing ..by design..

    Notice......... capital L here in Light...not lower case...

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom
     
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  7. orangetom1999

    orangetom1999 On Hiatus Banned

    by Arleigh,

    Wow.......!!!!

    If one reads carefully what is said in Galatians Chapter 4....about Ishmael and Isaac....it becomes clear that the author is describing the New Testament and the Olde Testament. Isaac is the New Testament and Ishmael is the Olde Testament.

    but....

    The author goes on to say that the Olde Testament s gendereth to bondage with her children.. In this case a particular Child....Ishmael....Ishmael is similar to bondage...

    But under the New Testament.....In Isaac shall thy seed be called...Not in Ishmael.

    I am often want to use the term Ishmael..

    And if one can think past the Kardashians and or the demi gods of sports...ESPN and the like....you can see our leadership often extending their power and control to put us more and more under Ishmael and take from us our liberties and freedoms.

    Remember these guys want to know what you are doing with over 600 pr 650 dollars of your own monies???? Does that sound like freedom or the road to more tyranny, regulation and censorship???? This is Ishmael and what Ishmaelites do.

    Be very very warned these Ishmaelites in our own government who constantly pass legislation to herd us more and more under their control and or regulation....this is not liberty....this is fascism ...while they label others fascists and Hitlers....got it???

    We are not under the Olde Testament bondage....of Ishmael.....we are under Isaac...

    But leaders often pass regulations ...controls...and limits on people to keep them properly herded....and to keep us herded more...they need us in electric cars which will limit our travels....and tell on us in everything electronic.. Or ...put us all on public transportation.

    Da Tovarich?????

    Catching on yet???

    They like Olde Testament Ishmael...bondage...

    And climate change is the same operating principle....Ishmael.....more fear tactics...with the soulution....more government....less liberty and freedom.

    Be very very careful of science in bed with government...it is often no different from Church and state combined....in it's fruit..produced.. A new religion .....and religious system....and complete with it's own devout religious zealots/priesthood.

    Are we ever supposed to think this far on our own and outside the box without first consulting "Experts??"


    Be warned these Ishmaelites in leadership positions....

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom
     
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