Hidden Antennas for HOA restrictions (Part 1 & 2)

If the chimney wasn't in the middle of the roof, I could hide a j-pole on the upslope side and be invisible from the ground, but no way to feed it invisibly. May still do it that way though.
Problem lies with not knowing enough to know what my options SHOULD be.
Pitch of the roof is 12/12 (45°) which also means a 90° at the underside of the peak. I have galvanized electric fence wire, bell wire, music wire, but no clear idea of what I would need to design. Current radio is 2 meter and 70cm only, baofeng uv-3r.

 

@kellory
A magnetic loop is a lot more complex and more importantly expensive than a sloper, fan dipole and others.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/pg29d1a.gif

The down-lead is an important component. As is a good station ground; no one appreciates RF in the shack. .

Slopers are directional:
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/sloper.gif

A vertical piece of wire from the ground to the peak of your roof, a tuner and a few radials and you're on the air for the a lot less $$. Plus it's pretty stealthy.

 

I cover that in the article too. If congress does not come across with the Amateur Radio Parity Act, i will have to go with one.

Right now I sneak this up

 

this is a similar structure house. (Google pic) how would you do a Stealth antenna here. Flagpole would be about the same location as the tree.

 

I installed the roof, I have the ladders to install what I will, where I will. I just don't want it known that it is there.

 

Never use a chimney as an anchor point for something with a lot of pull, they collapse well enough on Thier own if I use the chimney at all, it would be on the uphill slope and hidden from the ground.
I do not plan to discuss what I have installed, because I do not care for argument or backseat driving. (It iratates me, while I'm working) it will be a feat accomplished when it is noticed, and the neighbors should never notice.
Very few know I am a ham at all.

 

I have a surveyor's transom, and tripod stand, PVC pipe is easy and cheap. I COULD easily raise a portable antenna for temp use, in the backyard, but I do not choose to advertise the fact I am a ham.
And since I am incity, all these hanging do-dads would be seen and noted.
I'm looking for a stealth/ no maintenance kind of answer.

 

For VHF or UHF just climb the tree, place antenna, drop the coax to the ground behind the trunk and use Belden mil spec so it can be buried.

As their wave length is short; you don't have to climb very high.

 

How high? And why not do that inside the flagpole?

 

Thanks for your insights.

 

As high as you feel safe climbing and are willing to buy coax to reach your transmitter. As VHF and UHF attenuates a lot more than HF; buy the good low loss stuff. Belden is more expensive; however, it survives being buried.
http://www.w4rp.com/ref/coax.html

 

That is kinda what I had in mind, with a possible j-pole on the hidden side. Or possibly a loaded antenna like what a CD would use, but run vertically through the flagpole. Completely unknown.
Edit: there have been two chimneys collapse on this street already. Neighborhood is more than 50 years old.

 

any opinions on something like this? i think this would fit inside the flagpole.

 

No way I can do 40' of PVC, concrete base and all. I have an existing flagpole made of chain link topcap (I will measure it) but topcap comes in 20' lengths with about 3' in the ground. The idea is to be invisable.