Wow... I got a second education just reading all the great comments here! I had a desk that once held an ink bottle, and the school did have the pens with ink bladders! They ( for some reason that escaped me until I read the post here about it) just absolutely refused to let us play with them or the ink/bottles! I too recall many people that were graduated rom my 8th grade classes that could not even write, much less read...it went downhill from there! I had a distinct disadvantage to learning about math, and history.... I hated it! But, when I decided I wanted to become a photogapher, I soon discovered that there was a tremendous amount of math involved..... Then, later on in life, I went into aerospace machining, and had to learn to talk to a CNC machine ( the NC's were much easier with the tapes! LOL) I was over 40 then! I have learned more about history today watching the history channel, and the military channel, than 4 years of high school could ever teach me. (sad, but all too true) Now, just a couple days ago, I had to use a math calcualtion which I never did learn, and had to ask my 20 year old son.....I can use pi, and basics, so I thought I was covered....WRONG! I had to ask how on earth to figure the area of a triangle...it was embarassing, but he showed me and I was flabbergasted that it was so easy! I just did not learn it, probably as I felt intimidated by math, back in school. So at least I know they are learning something, and I feel better about that at least....He knows something about computers, having taken 4 years of them.... Me, I'm still asking him how to solve a dilemna I get myself into on this thing, and it may take him a few minutes, but he gets me going again! It may be a bad idea to try to teach him anything mechanical. As far as vehicles, as I doubt they'll be anyhting like I had or worked on in past times.... He took 4 years of stage production, as he had already had experience on my table saws, hand saws, sabre saws, skil saws, drills, grinders and such...He did very good there! I have bought a ton (or more) of books on all kinds of subjects, but his mother complains almost every day, all he does is on the computer...! Now, If I can ONLY get him to read and expand the knowledge he already has acquired...the Best I can hope for, is to get them interested and turn them loose!