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hillbill · Feb 2, 2015

thanks everone for their replies,im working on a bag to put in the suv and looking at the route that I would take if necessary.

kellory · Feb 2, 2015

Take a good look at a map, or Google earth, and see if there are any railroads going in the right direction. Even if the roads were clogged with people or cars, there should be a service road parallel to the tracks for service work on the rails and switches. It may prove to be a back up plan, and I have never heard of a road block on a service road like that.

HK_User · Feb 2, 2015

Also check on power line right of ways as well as drainage ditches etc.

Tully Mars · Feb 3, 2015

kellory said: ↑

Take a good look at a map, or Google earth, and see if there are any railroads going in the right direction. Even if the roads were clogged with people or cars, there should be a service road parallel to the tracks for service work on the rails and switches. It may prove to be a back up plan, and I have never heard of a road block on a service road like that.
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Excellent point Kel.

Down here at least There seems to be a bit larger right of way on the tracks compared to some places I've noticed. Most all GPS systems show RR tracks as well.

ghrit · Feb 3, 2015

kellory said: ↑

Take a good look at a map, or Google earth, and see if there are any railroads going in the right direction. Even if the roads were clogged with people or cars, there should be a service road parallel to the tracks for service work on the rails and switches. It may prove to be a back up plan, and I have never heard of a road block on a service road like that.
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Bear in mind that predatory thugs aren't totally stupid, and E&E might be needed since one might expect them to think that an RR ROW might be a place to set up a "toll booth", so to say. The same might apply to power lines, but I'd think less so. I imagine that using any kind of ROW means you'll have company, sheep ain't stupid either, at least not all the time.

Yard Dart · Feb 3, 2015

Words to remember and live by!!! Every one of these rules applies to action's while under movement that should be adhered to... always.
Some may apply to defensive or offensive operations.... but they fit most any scenario including getting home when the SHTF, bugging out or performing intel gathering (scouting) and security patrolling of your BIL.

Robert Rogers' 28 "Rules of Ranging"

The Rules as they are today
The following rules are the edited and simplified version of the original set.

All Rangers are subject to the rules of war.

In a small group, march in single file with enough space between so that one shot can't pass through one man and kill a second.

Marching over soft ground should be done abreast, making tracking difficult. At night, keep half your force awake while half sleeps.

Before reaching your destination, send one or two men forward to scout the area and avoid traps.

If prisoners are taken, keep them separate and question them individually.

Marching in groups of three or four hundred should be done in three separate columns, within support distance, with a point and rear guard.

When attacked, fall or squat down to receive fire and rise to deliver. Keep your flanks as strong as the enemy's flanking force, and if retreat is necessary, maintain the retreat fire drill.

When chasing an enemy, keep your flanks strong, and prevent them from gaining high ground where they could turn and fight.

When retreating, the rank facing the enemy must fire and retreat through the second rank, thus causing the enemy to advance into constant fire.

If the enemy is far superior, the whole squad must disperse and meet again at a designated location. This scatters the pursuit and allows for organized resistance.

If attacked from the rear, the ranks reverse order, so the rear rank now becomes the front. If attacked from the flank, the opposite flank now serves as the rear rank.

If a rally is used after a retreat, make it on the high ground to slow the enemy advance.

When lying in ambuscade, wait for the enemy to get close enough that your fire will be doubly frightening, and after firing, the enemy can be rushed with hatchets.

At a campsite, the sentries should be posted at a distance to protect the camp without revealing its location. Each sentry will consist of 6 men with two constantly awake at a time.

The entire detachment should be awake before dawn each morning as this is the usual time of enemy attack.

Upon discovering a superior enemy in the morning, you should wait until dark to attack, thus hiding your lack of numbers and using the night to aid your retreat.

Before leaving a camp, send out small parties to see if you have been observed during the night.

When stopping for water, place proper guards around the spot making sure the pathway you used is covered to avoid surprise from a following party.

Avoid using regular river fords as these are often watched by the enemy.

Avoid passing lakes too close to the edge, as the enemy could trap you against the water's edge.

If an enemy is following your rear, circle back and attack him along the same path.

When returning from a scout, use a different path as the enemy may have seen you leave and will wait for your return to attack when you're tired.

When following an enemy force, try not to use their path, but rather plan to cut them off and ambush them at a narrow place or when they least expect it.

When traveling by water, leave at night to avoid detection.

In rowing in a chain of boats, the one in front should keep contact with the one directly astern of it. This way they can help each other and the boats will not become lost in the night.

One man in each boat will be assigned to watch the shore for fires or movement.

If you are preparing an ambuscade near a river or lake, leave a force on the opposite side of the water so the enemy's flight will lead them into your detachment.

When locating an enemy party of undetermined strength, send out a small scouting party to watch them. It may take all day to decide on your attack or withdrawal, so signs and countersigns should be established to determine your friends in the dark.

If you are attacked in rough or flat ground, it is best to scatter as if in rout. At a pre-picked place you can turn, allowing the enemy to close. Fire closely, then counterattack with hatchets. Flankers could then attack the enemy and rout him in return.

Standing Orders
Rogers also formulated the following Standing Orders, which are distinct from the 28 Rules listed above. These orders are placed just after the Ranger Creed in every edition of the Ranger Handbook.[1]

Don't forget nothing.

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

When you're on the march, act the way you would if you was sneaking up on a deer. See the enemy first.

Tell the truth about what you see and what you do. There is an army depending on us for correct information. You can lie all you please when you tell other folks about the Rangers, but don't never lie to a Ranger or officer.

Don't never take a chance you don't have to.

When we're on the march we march single file, far enough apart so one shot can't go through two men.

If we strike swamps, or soft ground, we spread out abreast, so it's hard to track us.

When we march, we keep moving till dark, so as to give the enemy the least possible chance at us.

When we camp, half the party stays awake while the other half sleeps.

If we take prisoners, we keep 'em separate till we have had time to examine them, so they can't cook up a story between 'em.

Don't ever march home the same way. Take a different route so you won't be ambushed.

No matter whether we travel in big parties or little ones, each party has to keep a scout 20 yards ahead, 20 yards on each flank, and 20 yards in the rear so the main body can't be surprised and wiped out.

Every night you'll be told where to meet if surrounded by a superior force.

Don't sit down to eat without posting sentries.

Don't sleep beyond dawn. Dawn's when the French and Indians attack.

Don't cross a river by a regular ford.

If somebody's trailing you, make a circle, come back onto your own tracks, and ambush the folks that aim to ambush you.

Don't stand up when the enemy's coming against you. Kneel down, lie down, hide behind a tree.

Let the enemy come till he's almost close enough to touch, then let him have it and jump out and finish him up with your hatchet.

Don't use your musket if you can kill 'em with your hatchet.[2]

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Robert Rogers' 28 "Rules of Ranging" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Military Manuals - US Army Ranger Handbook

Yard Dart · Feb 3, 2015

ghrit said: ↑

Bear in mind that predatory thugs aren't totally stupid, and E&E might be needed since one might expect them to think that an RR ROW might be a place to set up a "toll booth", so to say. The same might apply to power lines, but I'd think less so. I imagine that using any kind of ROW means you'll have company, sheep ain't stupid either, at least not all the time.
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One of the rules to remember, is never walk on the road, ROW or used trail but to travel adjacent of it at some distance... which will allow you to avoid ambushes, road blocks and the other things that may be in wait for unsuspecting travelers.

oldawg · Feb 3, 2015

Sound advice and skills seem to be
ageless.

kellory · Feb 3, 2015

obviously learned the hard way

hillbill · Feb 3, 2015

thanks for all the replies,ive been checking on routes and will mean a trek thru a small city,Johnson city.unless a person has some sort of heads up its a rough way home will need a good bag.

Witch Doctor 01 · Feb 3, 2015

Consider getting a copy of local forestry maps... they have all roads, paths, logging trails, year around water supplies, terrain features, etc...
they are cheap and well worth the effort...

Mindgrinder · Feb 4, 2015

Fundraiser for walker with killer commute reaches $230K

"
Robertson starts his daily commute by riding a SMART bus from Woodward near Holbrook in Detroit to a bus stop near Somerset Collection, an upscale mall in Troy. From there he walks about 7 miles — regardless of the weather — to the factory. At the end of his 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift, he foots it back to the mall and catches the last bus in to Detroit, taking him to the State Fairground at the city's border. From there he walks home in the dark, about 5 miles
"

Dude is 56.
Ya'll are slackers.
Because: Detroit makes you one hard mo$&%#$*%(.

With love,
MG

Witch Doctor 01 · Feb 4, 2015

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