For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction

ColtCarbine · Aug 3, 2024

Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods the opposite is happening. There was a time when we had more churches than bars. Long standing churches are closing and most that are still in existence have changed their ideology over time. Let's just say societal changes and the politics in Oregon have seemed to influence some to not follow the same doctrine they used to. I wish I could say there is a revival but I'm seeing a falling away where I live. Keep in mind this is happening near the Portland metro area which seems to lean more to the left, rather than the right. Our oldest standing historical church (late 1800's) changed ownership, with the new owner not utilizing it as a church and renting it out for weddings and exercise classes.

Seawolf1090 · Aug 3, 2024

ColtCarbine said: ↑

Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods the opposite is happening. There was a time when we had more churches than bars. Long standing churches are closing and most that are still in existence have changed their ideology over time. Let's just say societal changes and the politics in Oregon have seemed to influence some to not follow the same doctrine they used to. I wish I could say there is a revival but I'm seeing a falling away where I live. Keep in mind this is happening near the Portland metro area which seems to lean more to the left, rather than the right. Our oldest standing historical church (late 1800's) changed ownership, with the new owner not utilizing it as a church and renting it out for weddings and exercise classes.
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As a wise man said, "The times they are a'changin....." Sadly he was so right. And NOT for the better.

DKR · Aug 3, 2024

Brokor said: ↑

There is a significant difference between a prophecy fulfilled and a carefully executed delivery of what appears to be the same. In other words, what is often seen is created to instill a sense of awe, power, and of course...fear.

The formation of religions is as old as anything human related, and the earliest civilizations within our iteration quickly adopted the war-like tendencies and followed the Eagle. The issue was, how do you convince somebody else to die for your cause, but not just this -to also endure great pain and suffering with little to no tangible reward. Naturally, those civilizations with the largest number of philosophers and free thinkers adopted a more complicated spiritual approach. The end result was always the same, however. It is never a question of whether or not a religion is real or true or accurate and meaningful and just -it's a matter of validating the root cause for it to even exist in the first place. Listen, there may have been a time, long before this iteration of humanity we've come to accept as the only intelligent species, when the people of that era followed a different path. Instead of worshiping the Eagle and taking on an aggressive posture, they followed the Serpent. In some of the oldest ruins and excavations, we can sometimes catch a glimpse of this serpent and the people associated with it were always, seemingly a spiritual and peaceful type. Of course, we are taught that a serpent is evil, that lizard people control the elites of the world, and an eagle is majestic and powerful.

And yet, if we take the time to think about it, isn't the Rod of Asclepius a rod entwined with a single snake, derived from the Greek God for medicinal healing? And the Caduceus is a symbol with a short staff entwined by two serpents? And our medical field today probably doesn't truly understand the reference. What about Moses, then? With its seeming power over death, the serpent became a symbol of deliverance. Moses raised a bronze serpent on a staff upon which the afflicted might look and be healed (Numbers 21:6-9).

I don't mention this eagle and serpent topic just to pay homage to the many fables and myths, nor to attract people to any cult or egoist philosophy. I'm certain you can all do your own homework, here. I simply bring this duality to light in an attempt to illustrate the psychological manipulation and the implications of society on the human condition. One thing is certain -we are being deceived. To what end and purpose may be up for debate until the end of our time, and then another iteration of humanity will replace us and perhaps not make the same mistakes.
The only problem is, one cannot learn from a mistake if there's no evidence and no message to read. How do you communicate with a people who do not yet exist, across millennia and with the ravages of time?
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Humans have tried

and up to now - have failed.

arleigh · Aug 4, 2024

There is nothing like tragedy to bring men to their knees.

Tempstar · Aug 5, 2024

Read Revelation 17. The United States I feel is the whore talked about here. Our country has descended into one with no morals, mass corruption, personal greed, and sloth. We may be the most wicked nation on Earth biblically. We compare to ancient Rome with being technologically advanced yet morally bankrupt.

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