Chris Kyle killed

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CATO, Feb 3, 2013.


  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  2. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Dang UGRev, if even you see a pattern then it ain't a "theory" anymore.LOL Your right, to many incidents in the same vein involving drugs and psychosis with too many loose ends. Too many shadow people that disappear in the aftermath.
     
  3. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Washington (CNN) -- The shooting death of a former Navy SEAL, who spent his post-military career advocating for veterans suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, highlights long-standing differences over gun rights and mental health.
    Chris Kyle, the author of the best-selling "American Sniper," and Chad Littlefield, 35, also a veteran, were gunned down on Saturday while shooting for fun at a Texas gun range, law enforcement officials said.
    Eddie Ray Routh, 25, a former Marine who told police last year he was suffering from post traumatic stress, was held on a capital murder warrant, authorities said.
    Shay Isham, a lawyer appointed to represent him, said his client spent roughly the past two years in and out in Veteran Affairs medical facilities for treatment of mental issues.
    Authorities said Kyle, 38, often took veterans with post traumatic stress to the gun range as a way of bonding with and mentoring them.

    Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant said Routh served in the Marines for four years, but it was unclear how much of that time, if any, was spent in combat zones.
    Kyle and LIttlefield, friends and associates, arrived with Routh at the sprawling range southwest of Fort Worth together, police said.
    The suspect was "a troubled veteran whom they were trying to help," said Craft International, a company founded by Kyle after retiring from the Navy in 2009.
    Ex-Navy sniper, another military vet killed at Texas gun range
    "Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that 'he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.' Treating PTSD at a gun range doesn't make sense," former Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul tweeted on Monday.
    But what seems like common sense to some is viewed by others as another assault on the Second Amendment.
    Those types of concerns are what prompted a heated debate last December as lawmakers worked to approve a defense policy bill.
    Republican Sen. Tom Coburn pushed and then backed away from an amendment to block the Department of Veteran Affairs from automatically entering the names of veterans deemed "mentally incompetent" to handle their finances from having their names entered into a national background check system, thereby blocking them from gun ownership.
    Instead, the Oklahoma physician wanted those case decided by a judge rather than a federal agency unless those veterans had been "found by a judicial authority to be a danger to themselves or to others."
    "We're not asking for anything big," Coburn said at the time. "We're just saying that if you're going to take away the Second Amendment rights -- they ought to have it adjudicated, rather than mandated by someone who's unqualified to state that they should lose their rights."
    New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer pushed back argued that "you should not have a gun" whether "you are a veteran or not and you have been judged to be mentally infirm."
    National Rifle Association President David Keene said at a recent media event that his organization supports reforms that would make it tougher for mentally ill people to get guns.
    How the violent mentally ill can buy guns
    Federal law makes it illegal to sell or give a firearm to anyone who "has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution."
    Statistics from the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) show about 1 percent of applicants who failed a background check over the past 14 years, or 10,180 people, were turned down for reasons related to mental health.
    Overall rejections represented a fraction of prospective gun sales and most involved applicants with criminal records.
    Federally licensed gun shops must use the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS. Private sellers and gun shows have no background check requirement.
    But information in the national background check system is incomplete, particularly involving mental health records, investigations have found.
    Critics blame what they call a huge legal loophole, according to one study.
    "PTSD is rarely associated with homicidal violence," Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist who has worked on cases of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans charged with violent crimes, told CNN's Soledad O'Brien.
    "PTSD is very commonly associated with a number of other conditions that are regularly attached to violence, alcoholism, personality disorder, depression. So diagnostically, PTSD may be relevant and it may just be part of the picture, including traumatic brain injury," Welner said.
    Expanding some background checks is under consideration in Congress as lawmakers respond to public and political pressure for stricter laws following December's shooting massacre at a Connecticut elementary school.
    Possible steps include better monitoring of people with mental illness to prevent them from obtaining firearms.
    Mayors Against Illegal Guns aired an ad during the Super Bowl advocating universal background checks for gun sales.
    President Barack Obama also reiterated his call on Monday for comprehensive steps to address gun violence, including expanded background checks.



    I'm very disapointed in Ron Pauls commements.... Is he turning Liberal?..
     
  4. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    t-shirt info. proceeds go to trusts for his kids.

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  5. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Msg from Kyle's sniper instructor, Brandon Webb.

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  6. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield Memorial Gear and Charitable Donations | SOFREP

    Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield Memorial Gear and Charitable Donations

    by Laura Walker · February 10, 2013 · Posted In: SOF News
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    It’s been a week since we lost two good men, Chris Kyle, and Chad Littlefield. In that time so many good people have donated their time and money to support the both families and to honor them.
    People have wanted to purchase Chris Kyle memorial gear as a way to help, and there have been some really great organizations lending their resources but unfortunately, we’ve seen a whole crop of scammers offering Chris Kyle memorial items that are unlicensed, unauthorized and often come with bogus claims the proceeds will go to Craft or the Kyle family. It stops now.
    SOFREP and Craft International LLC are working together to keep these predators from taking advantage of the generosity of good people and to protect Chris’s identity. We’re asking you to help us be the sheepdog.
    Here is how you can help:
    SOFREP will be posting and updating a list of official and authorized memorial gear. There are many great companies who are still reaching out to Craft and the Kyle family to work out how they can help donate, so please, bear in mind some very good companies are still getting their ducks in order and have the most honorable intentions. We are compiling a list of authorized vendors and will be dealing with the scammers.
    Then there is the dirty underbelly of all of this. I’m asking the SOFREP mafia and any guests who come by, if you see Chris Kyle memorial gear for sale anywhere to please use the comments section of this post to list the seller name and a link to the listing. Please DO NOT contact the sellers yourself – let the SOFREP Team and Craft International handle inquiries and/or legal issues. There are people out there that truly want to help the families and we don’t want to threaten everyone with trademark and copyright infringement. Having said that, we want to come down hard on anyone taking advantage of the public’s generosity.
    For now, if you would simply post a link below to any suspicious Chris Kyle memorial items you find, that will be a tremendous help.
    OFFICIAL MEMORIAL GEAR
    Craft International LLC created memorial gear that is the “official” Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield memorial gear. All profits will be donated to the families through a 501(3)(c) so that it’s the most tax efficient. These are the official Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield memorial items available at the Craft website:
    VETTED MEMORIAL MERCHANDISE VENDORS
    These are the companies who are currently in communication with Craft and SOFREP making the proper arrangements. This list will be updated as we go.
    WHERE TO DONATE DIRECTLY
    Craft International has set up the Chris Kyle Memorial Trust and the Chad Littlefield Memorial Trust. There are links on the craft website where you can donate directly to either or both funds. These trusts provide for the general welfare of the families as well as the education of their young children. 100% of the donations will go to the respective families.
    The link to donate is here: SUPPORTING THE FAMILIES OF CHRIS KYLE AND CHAD LITTLEFIELD
    For people that want a tax deduction, we are directing them to America’s Mighty Warriors America's Mighty Warriors, a charity set up by Debbie Lee, Marc Lee’s mom.
    Brandon Webb’s The Red Circle Foundation is also re-directing all initial donations marked for Chris Kyle to Debbie Lee’s charity America’s Mighty Warriors. Donations that have come in are already marked to move forward.
    It is best to make donations directly to the Funds either via the Craft site or the Debbie’s charity listed above. We hope to avoid having donations going all over the place and getting bogged down in the paperwork and legalities of moving those funds around.
    CHRIS KYLE MEMORIAL
    The Public Memorial for Chris Kyle will be held tomorrow, Monday, February 11 at 1:00 PM at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. This event is open to the public.
    Doors open at 11:30 a.m. and the service starts at 1 p.m.
    Lots 1, 2, and 10 will be open for parking.
    No cameras, bags or purses will be permitted inside the stadium.
    Visitors can bring flowers for the field; they should be dropped off Monday morning at Gates A and K. The flowers will later be donated to veterans hospitals.
    CHRIS KYLE MEMORIAL PROCESSION Monday February 11, 8:00 am – 1:00pm
    The route will start at 8 a.m. and will travel from the Multi-Purpose Stadium south on 14th Street in Midlothian, Texas to U.S. 287. The procession will then travel south on Interstate 35E to Austin bound for the Texas State Cemetery at 909 Navasota Street.
    Motorists along the route are alerted to expect delays during the four-to-five hour motorcade which will include military personnel, first responders and Patriot Guard Riders.
    I will be working directly with Craft International to update the lists of Vetted Vendors and track the scammers as the pop up. If you see a someone pushing Memorial Merchandise, please post that information below.
    Thank you for all the kind words, support and prayer for Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield, and thank you for taking the time to help me shoot down anyone trying to use them for ill gain. Screen-Shot-2013-02-10-at-5.11.28-PM.
     
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  7. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I haven't followed the story (or read this thread) but is this the guy this Anerican Sniper movie is about?
     
  8. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Yes
     
  9. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    Chris Kyle, Mr Noveske, and Kieth Ratliff all died within a month of each other, making many people believe they died under nefarious circumstances/not the official story. I believe there was at least one other, but cannot recall his name. Not everybody in that list is military, some were civilian armament developers and enthusiasts in the business. If they can make Sgt Bradley Manning think he was a woman, they can sure make Mr Eddie Routh think he killed Chris Kyle. No way to prove that, just connecting dots in my head.
     
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  10. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Some "dots" need to be connected and some situations are mere circumstance. Like to keep eyes open.
     
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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Name your terror plot -from 7/7 London to the infamous 9-11 NY, then the Boston bombings. We could keep going...

    Who do you think is involved, at one level or another, to some extent sooner or later? Yes, spec ops. Yes, companies like Craft. Sure, they are run, managed, and filled with patriots. You are probably wondering how they could ever do anything to harm our people? One word comes to mind: compartmentalization. These groups only represent a part of the whole. We do not even have the slightest clue about the number of black ops entities there are out there. They are told only what they need to know. They operate under conditions of extreme prejudice. They have their own news channels, their own circles. In conclusion, it's not difficult to find willing servants who are unwittingly helping the globalist cause. Are these veterans, these heroes bombing our cities and killing our people? I would say, probably not. They certainly do play a part, though, whether it is training others to laying out strategy or even just maintaining a presence on the day of the attack to keep up appearances -they play a role.

    The question which comes to my mind is, do all of these now dead men know what I know?

    Privatizing the military specialty command tree is HUGE business, especially in the land of the war makers. You decide if it's worth killing for, or not.
     
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