Border wall proposal

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TnAndy, Apr 8, 2019.


  1. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    A volunteer force of retired folks with binoculars and radios to call it in. And no catch and release. The invaders should appreciate we are not evil people who catch and take illegals for a plane ride over the ocean where we dump them out the back of cargo planes.
     
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  2. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    its obvious to me that you do not know your geography for Texas, New Mexico and Arizona

    there are places you can only go on foot and places where swimming ashore is impossible because the sand is quick sand. :eye roll: I just wish people would get their facts in order before posting opinions with out factoids to support said opinions
     
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  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    2.5 billion dollars green lighted by the supreme Court to build the wall.
     
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  4. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Can anyone explain how "we don't have 2.5 billion dollars for a boarder wall" but we did have 400 billion dollars to light on fire and air drop in Ukraine?
     
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  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I don't have any proof ,, but I'll give it a shot .

    The crooked politicians couldnt launder their cut from the border wall construction,, because Trump was in their way .

    With Ukraine,, and Beetle Brained Bumbling Biden ,,, he could send billions of our dollars to the Ukrainian laundry mat .

    This has got to be the reason . And I believe it's so ,, because,, how many of our politicians went over to Ukraine,,, a war zone ,, during a reported all out war with another SuperPower country. I don't know the answer to this ,, but ,, how many politicians went to Ukraine ?? I know of at least 3-4 ,, Piglosi, Lindsey Graham ,, I think Shumer ,, and possibly others .

    How many politicians went to the border ??
     
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  6. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Pajarito Mountains (Arizona) - Wikipedia

    one of many reasons a 'wall' won't work by itself.

    How about

    NO welfare
    NO free housing
    NO free medical
    NO school for illegals
    NO jobs (employers lose business it if caught)

    with all this above you have NO incentive to border hop.
     
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  7. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Add one important NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES !!!!!!!!!!!! Repeal the 14th amendment
     
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  8. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Punish renters and employers hard as fuck. Make them run SS numbers and make sure SS administration is responsive.

    That'll do it.

    However, there isn't a route to citizenship while in the US illegally. If a person has been here 10 years, never committed a crime, and been a good citizen.....I believe they should have a route to get citizenship without going home first. Some interim shit would be needed for the 10 year period but not after.

    Yeah, I know they committed a crime coming here. We made the open door system so we could have cheap labor with less civil rights. That was the case for at least 35 of the last 50 years.

    I think a conditional citizenship might be a good idea. Commit a felony: go home forever. Get caught again here....labor camps. Your family could have gone to you so quit bitching about not being able to come back here. The American adoption system doesn't totally horrendously suck. I think...
     
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  9. sasquatch91

    sasquatch91 Monkey+++

    hows bout a big canal all thr way across full of gators and cotton mouths
     
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  10. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I always thought it might be a good use for landmines.
     
  11. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Said that many times land mines are cheap easy to install put up warning signs in many languages ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK --MINE FIELD

    I don't care how long some one has been her if you came in the back door illegally you broke our laws you get deported Familys won't be broken up ==they all go back
     
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  12. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Nailed it!
    Let me tell the story of Nacho. I met him while installing a paint booth at a body shop. Nice guy, illegal, been here over 20 years. Nacho makes great money, lives in a trailer with several other guys where they pool their money for expenses. Every 2 years Nacho calls immigration on himself and gets a free bus ride back to Mexico, meals included. He visits his family for 6 months or so in his beautiful home (saw the pictures) paid for with the wages made in the US. Then he pays a guy the equivalent of $50 that brings him back across the border in Texas, hops on a bus and comes back here to resume working. Nacho is a millionaire in Mexico. He has done this for over 20 years despite any border policy. His boss simply pays himself enough to cover Nacho and gives Nacho cash. Nacho walks into any ER and gets treated for any illness at no cost. Nacho sends $2000 a month to Mexico. Nacho is the prime example of why the system fails.
     
  13. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Think about it millions if not billions of US dollars are sent back to Mexico by illegals working in the USA. That is money taken out of the US economy supporting US mom and pop businesses- money that won't circulate in OUR economy. These illegals are paid under the table, pay no taxes or SS but reap the benefits our worthless government gives them. Government by the people for the people should be rewritten government not by the people but for the illegals
     
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  14. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Put a 15% tax on remittances /Western Union xfers out of country.
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    On the east coast in a small city with the same population they have nicer shit more stores better schools.
    The main difference, don't have a bunch of illegals sending money back home.
     
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  16. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Mexico isn't the problem anymore. I believe Mexico to be our best cousin regarding work ethic, religion, and family cohesiveness. Mexican Immigration has been negative for many years now.

    The immigrants became central and South Americans 20 years ago. Now, it's not from the Americas so much as Africa, the Caribbean, and Asia.
     
  17. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I don't know whether it is a typo, but I think the word, 'all' was omitted between the words 'on' and '/Western'. It will never happen of course. Investors and political bagmen with offshore shelf companies wouldn't stand for it. ;)
     
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  18. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    There was a time in our history when we needed immigration in order to build this nation but what happened or was policy in the past does not dictate what our policy should be now. We do not need mass immigration any longer we should be very selective as to who we let in and it should be only those who have skills that benefit this country. We do not need unskilled labor we have millions of citizens who refuse to work and our government sanctions this by government handouts. It is long over due this practice stops. This idea that Americans won't do the jobs --if that is your belief you don't eat. There is no shame in whatever job you do ---there should be shame in refusing to work. My rant is over
     
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  19. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Saw a news story the other day about Biden wanting to build 20 miles of moveable border wall! I guess he wants to please both sides, he is building a border wall, and it is moveable (meaning that it can be removed at some later date). I'll believe it when I see it!
     
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  20. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Bidumb will build a moveable wall -----he'll move it some place else and say see I built more wall
     
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