Americans are Hoarding Money

Discussion in 'Financial Cents' started by Motomom34, May 10, 2018.


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  1. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Tell her she would be beating inflation by buying at todays dollar value as compared to the future dollar value after inflation eats it up. Five dollars spent today may be ten dollars in the pocket in ten years as an example.

    Just wish I could make gas last ten or twenty years.. Now that would be real value!
     
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  2. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I have gas I've stored in sealed up air tight 55 gallon drums 10 years now and dipped out of it just recently and it's good fuel.
    Trick is it must remain sealed up and as little air space in side as possible so the fuel cannot gasify.
    If ventilated or too much air space it will vaporize and the liquid become lacquer ,stinky an good for nothing .
     
  3. The_Prepared

    The_Prepared Derpy Monkey

    Claiming $3,700 in savings is hoarding / wrong is so facepalm.
    Especially with our long term economic outlook as bleak as it is.
     
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    What about all those rich folks with numbered accounts in foreign banks? Sounds like hoarding to me.
     
  5. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Actually , if the dollar tanks they are out more than a homeless bigger in the street .
     
  6. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    *scratches head* when did saving become hoarding?
     
  7. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    You are assuming of course that the offshore monies are in dollars.
    Mine are not.
     
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  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Doesn't matter the type - money is money. Them what holds the most lord it over us who have little.
    The pretender obama was working to take all loose monies we had over and above what we needed to live on.
     
  9. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    And he was fixing to tell us what that level of living was to be. I was happy that the term limit kicked in. I'm beginning to think a single term for pres and veep would be good. If someone twists my arm, I might even go for a 6 year term; 4 is getting to the point that nothing much gets accomplished in 4. Bears more thinking, that.
     
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  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I favor the old legendary Pacific Island concept, where the "King" enjoys his limited term. Then he gets tossed into the volcano. Seems fair. :cool:
     
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  11. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    USD paper & paper stocks are worthless when it fails !!
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  12. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    How many food and household items have gotten cheaper lately? Nothing comes to mind... Whatever you put away now will be had for the cheapest you're ever likely to get it. Food for thought.
     
  13. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    i AGREE , We have been thinking this way for a while also
     
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  14. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    I can't think of anything that has gotten cheaper. The Forster Tap-o-cap was about the same price from the 1970's until it was discontinued, but It's an oddity. If you adjust your view of prices to include historic wages, some things seem more reasonable. ...Some things.

    For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades

    Two estimates of price increases/dates that I can recall off the top of my head.

    Cigarettes 1982 $0.50 a pack, Now...anything under $3 seems like a sale (I quit smoking cigarettes 10 Nov 1982) Fifty-five cents a pack was just too much for Lucky Strikes.

    Beer 1982 $2 a six pack for Hamm's (cheapest beer available) Now...a 30 pack of Genesee is under $12. ($2.40 a six pack) Not too bad considering my wages then and now.

    Perhaps the good news for older folks (collectors/hoarders) is that the old junk in the barn and basement could be a gold mine. My father was an early E-bay seller, and financed many vacations and cruises selling old stuff online. It IS all about the presentation, and with overseas buyers in the mix nowadays, some auctions I've watched have become pretty exciting.
     
  15. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

     
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  16. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    @Oddcaliber your pricing increases made me laugh beer and cigarettes. :p

    mine is bananas when i got out on my own they wee 9-10 cents a lb, now they are 60cents a lb. my income didnt increase 6x in 30 years.
     
  17. Lone Gunman

    Lone Gunman Draw Varmint!

    It's only 'dirty paper'. ;)
     
  18. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I gravitate back to barterable non-perishables (food), gold and silver, knives, axes, alcohol, the makings for fermenting and bottling my own alcoholic beverages, small hand tools, fishing equipment, you know....Prep stuff.

    I try to convert any expendable cash into one of the above when possible. Collecting large amounts of cash in dollars might just afford you a good supply of fancy toilet paper or material for fire starting.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
  19. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    "As worthless as a Continental" or "not worth a continental"
    Not Worth a Continental - International Man

    The continental was paper money. It had occurred to the colonists that, as their revolution was costing quite a bit to maintain, they could go into “temporary” debt to finance the war. Soon it became clear that the debt could not be repaid. Also, the printing of paper banknotes resulted in inflation. The solution? Print more of them. Further devaluation of the continental motivated the colonists to print more… then more… then still more. The continental became worthless, either for local trade or for repayment of debt.

    The new country, the United States, then did something quite unusual. In its new Constitution, it created a clause to assure that this would never happen again. Under Article I, Section 10, the states were not permitted to “coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; [or] make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”

    The founding fathers of the US had figured out that the issuance of paper currency was a disaster in the making, and in 1792, passed the Coinage Act, denominating coins to be minted. The act authorized three gold coins: $10.00 eagles, $5.00 half eagles, and $2.50 quarter eagles, in addition to silver coins.

    Sadly, even this is no longer allowed. However - so called Private Currency is making a comeback.
     
  20. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    I spent a lot of time and text in my book, Aftermath, looking at alternative currencies and barter and why those might or might not work.

    For a society to progress and grow, some kind of money is needed, as not everything can be handled by direct barter....
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
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