Federal Court Rules Machine Guns are Protected by Your Second Amendment

I found dot mil m4 carbines with burst fire particular horrible for hitting anything.
My guess if you want full auto that is controllable and will hit something stick with crew serviced, sub machine guns, 22LRs. An M16A2 with straight full auto with adjustable gas, might be useful.

 

I would say the MP5 was most controllable when suppressed. The tie was between the B model UZI and the AK47 for most uncontrollable. Even knowing they would climb and twist was no help, you were still lucky to hit a target at 50 feet with a round or two from a full mag. And yeah, if you wanna hit anything heavy belt feds on a mount was the way to go. An M60 (No M249s back then) would unleash total hell on a target.
He had a 10/22 Ruger for a while that was FA, but I never shot it.

 

22plinkster did an episode on a full auto 10/22. It was a bullet hose. If you're on target when you pull the trigger all 10, 20 or 30 rounds are likely to hit the target.
Call it Bill Rugers buzz saw.

 

I found the Ingram MAC-10 to be terrible to hit with and I was terrified the damned strap was going to come off and blow my hand off somehow.

 

Mac10 is going to be more like a machine pistol, too big a round too light a gun.
Same way an m14 is uncontrollable on full auto.
But take that 308 round and put it in an MG42/52 which just an MG42 made with captured German equipment re barreled for 308 and it's very controllable.
A 5lb gun can be controllable with full auto if you pick the right cartridge, a 22LR in bill Rugers buzz saw you can put most of a 30rd mag on target at 25yd.
Or for 9mm go with a heavier gun like a sten if you poor or an MP5 if you have money to burn. The heavier gun makes the gun way more controllable.
I bet an M16A2 with a little bit of work will be controllable. Maybe an M4 with a little more work, like heavy buffers, longer buffer tube and adjustable gas.

 

Oh yeah and stoner hated 3rb so if I ever get an AR-15 machine gun it will be full party mode. No 3rb.

 

They didn't have a 3-round burst mode when I was in. It was only semi or full auto for the M16. We were taught to perform a manual 3 round burst simply by timing and walking the rounds into target but honestly, we didn't spend much time on it because they didn't want us doing it. They considered it useless.

I never could figure out how they managed to get the M4 to do a 3-round burst mode - I mean - how get it to stop after 3 rounds and have always wondered about its reliability. I guess it must be okay or they wouldn't have it. Dunno. However, I agree with you and Mr. Stoner, as simply seems another possible point of failure to me and doesn't add enough to warrant it. Semi and/or full auto fits all scenarios.

 

I actually thought they were going to remove Suppressors from the NFA bull$hit. I honestly did! I thought logic would prevail but no. This would mean having to reverse themselves and giving an inch...and the only ones they want giving ground are citizens. I still haven't bought any suppressors or firearms that requiring a tax stamp...which is exactly what they want.

 

It's not reliable. You never know if you're going to get 1, 2 or all 3 when you pull the trigger on 3rb for the first shot after using semiauto for a bit.

 

My M16A2 was rock solid on performance in 3 round burst mode. As bursts or imitating full auto with a mag dump of burstburstburstburst... it worked fine.

Being brought up back in the M16A1 "Quick Kill - bang bang" days, I never figured out or understood the burst option popping up. How frigging tough did they think these Slavs were? They need 3 now??

 

Full auto is pretty useless but i would think it would be handy if you needed cover fire to move!