Yet another GPS system?

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by DKR, Aug 16, 2020.


  1. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    BeiDou - Wikipedia (with cool graphics showing orbital paths)

    This one is Hecho en China.

    What does this mean for China?
    By completing BeiDou (Big Dipper), China now has its own navigation system, which will compete with systems developed by other countries. Out of these navigation systems, the GPS is the most widely used for both personal navigation and for more sensitive military purposes. Significantly, as ties between US and China deteriorate, it becomes more important for China to have its own navigation system that the US does not have control over.

    What does this mean for everyone else?
    This gives the PLA (Amry and Navy) a 'precision' navigation system that is controlled internally. "GPS" systems are now used for nearly everything military, including 'precision' weapons. Destruction of all or part of OP (other peoples) "GPS" systems would, initially, have no impact of the Chinese system. Loss of the any in-orbit GPS system components for the US or Russian military would have an immediate, and very negative, impact. Replacement would take some time - needed to assemble the necessary launch vehicle.

    So what? (meh, why should I care?)
    2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test - Wikipedia
    On 11 January 2007, China conducted an anti-satellite missile test. A Chinese weather satellite—the FY-1C polar orbit satellite of the Fengyun series, at an altitude of 865 kilometres (537 mi), with a mass of 750 kg[1]—was destroyed by a kinetic kill vehicle traveling with a speed of 8 km/s in the opposite direction (see Head-on engagement). It was launched with a multistage solid-fuel missile from Xichang Satellite Launch Center or nearby.

    The US ran a similar test - this was the first known (or at least reported) successful satellite intercept test in 1985, when the United States conducted a similar anti-satellite missile test using an ASM-135 ASAT to destroy the P78-1 satellite. (AKA ZAPSAT)

    The real impact is yet to be seen, but many feel this is just another step in the ramping up of the PLA for future shenanigans - or worse.

    The Economic and Military Impact of China’s BeiDou Navigation System has a view of both business and military impacts.

    https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/...PS and Implications for the United States.pdf the view from Foggy Bottom.
     
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    One must note that there's a slew of nav sats up there, and so a slew of anti sat missiles would be needed to take them all out. BTW, that would mean both sides would lose nav sat convenience in a war situation, IF there were enough missiles available to do the deed. At the same time, I hope the old ways are still taught at the various dot mil schools.
     
  3. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Blah blah blah... I deleted my random blather in favor of posting commentary from people more clever than me, heh.

    This was an older article that voiced concern about Beidou's ability to interfere with signals.
    More BeiDou Satellites Than GPS and with 2-Way Capability.

    Epoch Times more recently. BeiDou commentary begins at 9:50
     
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  4. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I heard the army dropped land navigation using a map and compass.
     
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  5. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

  6. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

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  7. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    Russian stuff is mostly crap and only work on occasion China only works on what they can steal
     
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I would think "a giant laser" would look more like a large telescope that is capable of tracking kind of fast.
    It looks more like drone shit.
    I would expect either a very large power supply or chemical trucks/tanks.

    Russia was working on a SLAM. A nuclear armed flying dirty bomb. It was the crazy air force program that lead to the invention of nuclear rockets and jet engines, terrain following tech, possibly created need for GPS.
     
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  9. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    Was it not the CCP shot down their own sat and made the USA have a jaw drop about 10 years ago ?? B4 any others tried that ??
    S
     
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  10. TommyJo

    TommyJo Monkey

  11. TommyJo

    TommyJo Monkey

    In addition to what I wrote above, 6g networks are being developed. Of course, China is also the first here. Back in the fall, the first Chinese satellite was launched to explore the possibilities of the next-generation network. At a minimum, this means that these networks will operate using a satellite equipment. This means that there will be even more satellites.
     
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