Venezuelan prison gang Tren de Aragua

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldDude49, Nov 23, 2024.


  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Reports say... Seems there is more afoot then our MSM wanted s to know

    Democrats and their media allies tried to downplay the situation after President-elect Donald Trump highlighted the crisis in Aurora to protect Vice President Kamala Harris during the election.

    Now that Election Day has passed, a leaked memo from the Department of Homeland Security revealed the extent that Tren de Aragua has infiltrated the country.

    The New York Post received an internal Homeland Security intelligence memo that revealed that the gang is now operating in 16 states, which cover half the country’s population.

    Gang members are running criminal schemes in California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wisconsin.

    Colorado has become the gang’s American headquarters.

    One secret memo from Homeland Security exposed this awful situation under Kamala Harris - Deplorable Daily
     
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  2. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Question why were they allowed into our country and the same can be said for the Russian gangs in the USA
     
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  3. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    At this point, I don't think it matters why they were allowed to enter the country illegally and remain, it's beyond stupidity and incompetence, it's treasonous; nevertheless, it matters not...unless they will prosecute Biden, Harris and all the individuals involved. Will they do that? Absolutely not! Oh, they will 'huff and puff' and make a big noise, but they won't do a damn thing. So, it's unproductive to continue on with this questioning.

    The real and current question is, "How do we get rid of them?" I believe my way would have immediate effect and make them leave on their own...but silly me. I'm an engineer and truly try to fix problems with cost and time effective solutions.

    On the criminals, I would simply give them 45 days to be out of the country and at that time I would issue Rewards. Yep! I would issue a 'Wanted Dead or Alive' bounty on each and every one of them. See how long they stay in the country above ground after that...either they leave, or they get planted. I mean, dead is as good as leaving, right? We have lots of vets that could use the cash windfall...

    Honestly, if we had the backbone and the will, you could get all these illegals gone within a year. For example, for all the others, the non-criminal illegals, you shut every door they have for food, shelter, employment, etc. with huge fines and prisons terms for whoever breaks these laws then also give them 45 days to leave. After 45 days, the monetary reward for information to locating and apprehending them. The bounty system works and gives good cause to turn the public against them...$$$
     
  4. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    These illegal aliens must go not only the crime but millions upon millions of US dollars are sent back to Mexico which hurts our economy. You think Mexico wants to shut the money spigot off hell no. Build the wall, arm those guarding the wall, allow them to shoot any invader plain and simple
     
  5. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    The problem here isn't unique nor is it new, we have allowed this to happen, even encouraged it because of ONE immutable fact, we absolutely NEED the unskilled labor to do the jobs no White or Black man would ever do! Farm Work and other low paying menial jobs, like restaurant workers, landscaping, and basic construction! Plain and simply, we created this problem by under paying to the point where no one in their right mind would willingly take that work, so we created an illegal workforce! Never mind that during the 70's many states especially California, made it illegal to hire said workers and would fine and even shut down these business's, nope, they found they were shooting themselves in the foot, who is going to do the work if not the illegals, Yea, nobody! The real issue here is that we created this problem as an economy of scale issue, we can and do out produce our own needs, and in doing so, that drives the costs way below the threshold of livable wages, to the point that even teens still in school would laugh and instead take a job at McDonalds or the local Tire shop, or any number of starting jobs rather then any of these ultra low paying ultra high demand jobs! In short, you get rid of all the illegals, ( Which we absolutely SHOULD) you then need to deal with the ultra low pay issue for all those necessary/essential menial jobs that no one would dare take! I don't have the answers to this problem, but would recommend work camps using felons serving their time, as well as "Summer Camp" for failing students who we all know will never amount to anything in the real world, and finally, we make it attractive enough that legal immigrants can use that as a path to citizenship while awaiting their approval time, this becomes viable to them being Non Citizens in waiting, they don't pay as much in taxes, and yet earn just enough to get by on, just enough! Finally, we knock down the illegal drug trade here in the states, a awful lot of these illegals are here specifically for the drug trade, where there is a need, it WILL always be filled! We really need to take a fresh look at the "War on Drugs" and act on that!
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    If we can't even rid ourselves of a few dozen itchy scabs in Washington, we sure as hell won't have much success with tens of millions of them spread out all over the country.

    But, let's wait and see how this dumpster fire commences. We've got, oh every CIA media company poised to run defense and many tens of thousands of military and gang members in various places waiting to burn shit and shoot up the streets. Then there's the millions of witless idiots who will ransack and loot on command. Forcing big T Daddy to call out the martial law fellas and knock some heads will grant some reprieve, but boy will it also make him look like the tyrant. And every single minority who dies...shame...shame...shame...shame...shame.

    Of course, we know the rules of the game. The crazies will push hard, we've just got to push a little harder.
     
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  7. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

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  8. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    Many years ago I was talking to a stranger and he spoke of being in prison and how one day gangs would become an overwhelming problem for the country.
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    They ought to know, too. Seriously, many of these gang members are from the streets where the majority of members have contact with others who have been imported from violent areas in S. America, C. America, or Mexico. And the talk isn't secret, even LEO and Feds know because they hear the same, not to mention they often have interactions with La Raza or any number of gangs. The part that mainstream will never report on is how many of these gangs have been funded through NGO's and even protected by Federal Agencies. These gangs can operate pretty much with impunity and control even larger numbers of crime rings not directly associated, making it very hard for local law enforcement to tie it all together.
    And think about the final goal in a country with many millions of gun owners. Yeah, there's nowhere near enough cops or even military to quell this powder keg.
     
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  10. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    This no American would do the work started with LBJ and his Great Society. People won't do the work because the government (we the taxpayer) are paying them not to work via all the government give away programs --welfare, wick, medicaid, section 8 housing, free phones etc etc. Take way all these programs and people will have to work. I'm all for helping out but damn it they have to work -since when did construction, landscaping, any job in general become beneath someone. with little skills. I've worked many jobs from the time I was in High School cleaning toilets, washing dishes, painting houses that sucked put it was honest work. If I hear one more time Americans won't do the work get the duct tape my head is going to explode.
     
  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

     
  12. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    A lot of good points here.

    We need low skill/high work ethic immigration. That's a given and should be supported 1000%. I say 1000% because we need 10x to 30x more legal immigration than is currently available for this class. We also need to have a way to gain citizenship if already here and with a long felony free history.

    Yes, seal the border and stop illegal immigration and smuggling. Really stop it by bringing the troops we have had sitting for the last 60-70 years minding other people's business.

    Yes, start phasing in penalties against employers, renters, social services, and licensing agencies for supporting illegals.

    My phone is dying. Y'all are spared another sermon by future King Zimmy
     
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