Thomas Jefferson would be holding an AK right now

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by melbo, Feb 13, 2006.


  1. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    From another board
    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=436957
    If Jefferson were still alive ... he'd be organizing a Revolution as we speak ....


     
  2. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Yup, and the British never taxed as heavily or did near as much to opress the colinests as could be said that our modern government dose. o_O
     
  3. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

     
  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Nice addition Colt... Thanks

    We need to really think about what a Founder said to the future, (us)
     
  5. meyah

    meyah Monkey+++

    He'd surely have more sense than to favor an AK.

    and he'd certainly know how to make enough money to afford a better fighting rifle.
     
  6. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    Re: He'd surely have more sense than to favor an AK.

    There is no better fighting rifle ever invented.
     
  7. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Re: He'd surely have more sense than to favor an AK.

    Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I'd have no problems depending on an AK to save my ass in a sticky situation, especially if that's all I could afford and/or had access to.
     
  8. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Well it would at least beat the hell out of any .223 which was created and addopted for the fact that it wounds the enimy rather than kill them which costs the enimy force more money and resources. A dead soldier at most costs 1 man and a body bag, a wounded soldier takes that man and at least 1-3 of his comrads to carry him to medical attention where there is then the cost, resources and personel used to treat him after which he may or may not be able to return to combat. For conflicts between nations this works well, for saveing ones own ass however a wounded soldier may well still be able to fire his weapon and kill you with his 'crappy' AK or other .30 cal after you already got a solid hit on him. So for the man in the battle the AK or other .30 cal is the supirior weapon, if your the beurocrat sitting 10,000 miles from the battle then yeah, guess you would be right that the .223 would be superior.
     
  9. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Oh and as you mentioned in another thread that a .223 SP will do as much as a .308 ball round, well that is likely true or at least close enouph to be arguable, the catch is you could just as easily use .308 SP ammo and far surpass the tramma inflicted by either of the choices you mentioned. You kind of have to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges for the comparison to mean anything, not apples to steaks.
     
  10. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    MM, don't confuse him with food, because in a SHTF situation, all apples, oranges and steaks will be devoured by the wild infected dogs, so your comparison will fall apart after that! :eek:
     
  11. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    [LMAO]
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Edit by ghrit, with a nod to sniper for the idea --
     
  13. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
    form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*
     
  14. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    "A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. ME 1:209, Papers 1:134
     
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