Second Amendment They’re Coming For Your Ammo

I wondered how long it would take for the concept of starving the guns of ammo to really take hold and by calling it "military ammo" plays to those who buy into the lib media’s "gun violence" line of crap.
Some countries already ban any caliber used by their military for civilian sales which is why .38 super is popular in central American countries.
It is a back door way of skirting the second amendment but then again most of the gun grabbers like the back door.
@Yard Dart "How is your ammo supply.... get to work if it is not where you want it to be!!"
Well stated.
Save your brass and buy powder,primers and bullets, even if you don't reload save them and pass on to others who do.

 

My state will fall shortly after California. Fortunately I've been preparing for a long time. I figured out long ago that ammunition and reloading components would become the new gold some day. My two favorite colors these days are Dillon blue and LC brass yellow.

 

Ammo controls were tried back in the 70s during the Carter administration on a nationwide basis. When you purchased ammo, you had to enter into a log book type and quantity purchased, name and address and your id (driver's license number).

This nonsense was dropped a few years later because it was so totally ineffective and useless as far as solving any crimes. The communists in California know this. But they're going to do anything to make it such a pain in the ass to be a gun owner, that they figure people will get disgusted with all the roadblocks and simply give them up.

If I know gun owners, communists have another thing coming.

 

I can make my own bullets, but making my own brass, good smokeless powder and primers is a bit out of my capabilities at the moment...so I've started stacking those items along with everything else.

 

The Mr. had reloading equipment but apparently his ex has it now. Which means it's probably rotting in a landfill somewhere. I have never messed with reloading though it's been on my list for years, one of those things I always push back and just buy more ammo. I'm sure he'll have an opinion on what to get but does anyone on here have any suggestions as far as a complete kit I can just go pick up? I don't even know the right question to ask here.

 

Lee makes a cheaper kit for about $140 with an aluminum press that I use for swagging the GI brass primer pockets and it has held up for thousands of rounds.
Lee Breech Lock Challenger Kit : Cabela's


RCMS makes nice cast iron press kits for around $300 if you can afford it a better kit is the way to go.
RCBS® Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit : Cabela's

 

Not only that, but what criminal is going to go to all the trouble to learn reloading skills, purchase the equipment and components, and then expend the effort and take the time required to actually load his own ammunition? Most of them would probably blow themselves up if they tried.

Attacking those who reload their own ammo has absolutely nothing to do with trying to stop crime. It has everything to do with hatred toward legitimate firearms owners, because most are fairly conservative politically. Make no mistake about it, hand loaders are on their radar.

 

It's a shame our country has gotten in the shape its in . If only we could go back to my youth when every thing was so much better. You could buy ammo and guns any where. My father gave me a .22pistol when I was about 9 , i would walk two miles to a little cross roads store and get a box of .22 ammo on Saturday and stay in the woods all day. That gun has never killed anyone neither have I. It's not the guns ,it's the way parents raise their kids.

 

@BTPost I have been reading the Heller decision, as I have time. I have not yet found the clause you mentioned concerning ammo being protected under 2A, as well as the arms. Perhaps you could provide links? I would like to read the language for myself.

 

They want sum......I got sum.

 

The Heller decision is about functionality. A gun cant function without bullets. Half of the written opinion is Justice Breyer trying to make a moral case for his desenting opinon in favor of a non usable weapon.

(Slip Opinion)
OCTOBER TERM, 2007 1
Syllabus
NOTE: Where it is feasible, a syllabus (headnote) will be released, as is
being done in connection with this case, at the time the opinion is issued.
The syllabus constitutes no part of the opinion of the Court but has been
prepared by the Reporter of Decisions for the convenience of the reader.
See
United States
v.
Detroit Timber & Lumber Co.,
200 U. S. 321, 337.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
Syllabus
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
ET
AL
.
v
. HELLER
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR
THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
No. 07–290. Argued March 18, 2008—Decided June 26, 2008
District of Columbia law bans handgun possession by making it a crime
to carry an unregistered firearm and prohibiting the registration of
handguns; provides separately that no person may carry an unli-
censed handgun, but authorizes the police chief to issue 1-year licenses; and requires residents to keep lawfully owned firearms unloaded and dissembled or bound by a trigger lock or similar device.
Respondent Heller, a D. C. special policeman, applied to register a handgun he wished to keep at home, but the District refused. He filed this suit seeking, on Second Amendment grounds, to enjoin the city from enforcing the bar on hand gun registration, the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement insofar as it prohibits the
use of functional firearms in the home. The District Court dismissed
the suit, but the D. C. Circuit reversed, holding that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess firearms andthat the city’s total ban on handguns, as well as its requirement that firearms in the home be kept nonfunctional even when necessary for self-defense, violated that right.

 

Yes, I've read, and am rereading, both the actual legal bumph and the rerwite for dummies. The nonfunctional part pertains to disassembly and trigger locks. @BTPost mentioned "and since a gun without ammo is just a clumsy club, ammo is also covered by 2A." I would like to read that portion of the opinion/decision.

 

If throwing the gun at the monsters is good enough for Steve McQueen and other horror movie actors, it should be good enough for us!

cept it never seems to work out well for them either....

 

Raised in Minn and in the 1940,s the local hardware store sold individual 22 shells for a penny each to us kids that couldn't come up with a quarter. At 10 years old I had a 22 of my own and hunted all the time. In rural Minn at the time if a farmer saw me on his land, the usual comments were, "Any luck?" or "There is a bunch of rabbits down in the slew that need to be thinned out." I also made pocket money trapping pocket gophers and rats and the rural one room grade school I went to had a designated place to leave your gun in the coat room as they took for granted that during hunting season you would bring one with you as you walked to school.

With my usual paranoid attitude, I have the old Lee hand loaders for each of my bolt action rifles. Usually pick up 30-30 or 30-06 ones at flea markets or gun shops for $10 or less. They do not use a press and only resize the neck and work best if you reshoot the case in the same rifle. Cheap, dirty, not the best ammo, but they go boom and are effective. Have the Lee molds for 30-06 and such and a bucket of wheel weights. Shoot those lead rounds and the hand reloads in the old rifle the ODM gave me when I was in high school and on the school rifle team.

1000 rifle primers, wheel weights, a couple pounds of 4895 powder and you have a lot of survival ammo in a small space. If you want to be real technical and anal, you can get a Lee gizmo to trim the cases to the correct length.

 

So we basically have criminals passing new wacky laws that only serve to create new criminals from formerly law-abiding citizens. Pretty soon we'll all be freakin criminals.