Schools in PA arming students for self-defense, by rocking on....

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DKR, Mar 25, 2018.


  1. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    David Helsel, superintendent of the Blue Mountain School District in rural Schuylkill County, testified earlier this month before the state House Education committee, saying arming students with rocks is a part of the district's strategy to protect them against the threat of violence.

    Every classroom in the district about 90 miles northwest of Philadelphia has a 5-gallon bucket of river stones, said Blue Mountain School District Superintendent David Helsel.

    "We always strive to find new ways to keep our students safe," Helsel told The Associated Press in a telephone interview, adding that the rocks are one small part of the district's overall security plan.

    NOT a joke or a parody. The school is putting buckets of rocks in each classroom..

    And here I throught a couple of trained and armed guards would be just the ticket....
     
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  2. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Good Lord, Where do they find these people?
     
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  3. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Hey!! They are highly trained educators and know far better how to keep those children safe.. Excuse me.. I think I just threw up in my mouth..

    On the other hand, with all those rocks those kids should be armed with sling shots.. Twenty or thirty kids cuttin loose on some hapless fool would be a site..
     
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  4. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    WOW!!!!!! What an idea!!!!!

    That would be PERFECT!

    What better way to end all the senseless violence than to take the guns away from law-abiding citizens and give them rocks instead. Registered rocks, after a thorough background check.

    And there must surely be no better way to prevent people from being killed by police officers than to take away their firearms, and give them rocks.

    I can see it now: A speed holster on the hip dispensing a double-stack of 15 high-caliber river rocks, spare rocks in tubes on the vest, and a hideout bag of screened gravel on the left ankle for backup.

    Say, a little something in fish-tank caliber, for example.

    And just look at the money we could save if we got rid of the guns entirely and equipped our military with rocks?

    Rock-throwing infantry, supported by catapult tanks throwing big-bore rocks, and artillery throwing even bigger rocks from hundreds of yards away.

    Wow!

    Strategic bombers dropping the Mother of All Rocks...perhaps even multiple rockhead intercontinental ballistic missiles to prevent the kind of war that could send Mankind back to the Stone Age.

    Wow.

    Just--wow!

    I always knew government schools would be good for something. Eventually.

    So--Is there any way to vote Pennsylvania off the Island?
     
  5. Would Fred and Barney make good R and D engineers?
     
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  6. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    "5-gallon bucket of river stones"
    The average common core teacher?
     
  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I don't know and have never met Helsel, but I have to sympathize with him. The state has not provided him with the tools he needs. If collecting stones from whatever source he can attracts attention to the problem, good for him. (But yep, it's a bit on the absurd side.)

    We can only hope that the state doesn't get involved in requiring that the stones meet max and min size, weight, cleanliness, and with minimal sharp edges (to protect the kid's hands and the perps skin.) It is, beyond doubt, within the governor's over reaching capability; he is, unquestionably, a socialistic tax raiser, and would love to create a new commission to oversee the classroom stocking of certified rocks.
     
  8. BlueDuck

    BlueDuck Monkey+++

    Next year, they will be marching against stones.
     
  9. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Give them all a wrist rocket and a handful of 1/2” ball bearings.
     
  10. I hope that all the stones have serial numbers and somebody is recording those numbers. BTW I think stoning is still a recognized method of execution in some mid eastern countries.
     
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  11. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Those countries are all the rage right now.....
     
  12. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Actually this could be a good thing, after all they will need practice and eventually graduate to other better means of self defense eventually coming back to owning and proper handling a gun.
     
  13. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I think Bishop may have a side job opportunity training the youth of today!
     
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  14. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Right. Somehow, I have some doubts that even he can get them to put their smart devices down long enough to absorb something not on a screen. (Oh. Right. YouTube IS on screen. I guess I have to elevate my doubts to getting them off their butts and do something.)
     
  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Literally anything is an improvement over what they have told kids to do for the past 20 years which is "lock the door and huddle in large groups, hope the shooter doesn't find you".
     
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  16. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe




    may have to import some experts on rocks.


    Goliath had a personal weapon. David had a ranged weapon. Trouble is, a firearm is the better ranged weapon.....
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Got to school to shoot it up, get stoned like a biblical whore.
    How awesome would that be?
     
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  18. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Simply amazing, folks actually recognising the need to arm them selves, damn the guns and all, but we still need to be able to protect our selves, so.........rocks, yup, that' the ticket, yea! Rocks are better then nothing, and maybe they will eventually come to the realisation that may be guns wasn't such a bad idea after all!
    Sure hope that's not a fully semi auto assault bucket, with forgrip and flash hides and that thingy that goes up! Better have the ATF pay a visit and make sure these rocks and buckets are fully legal. What about concealed carry? Do we need a permit, what about crossing a State line, will other States recogise my Conceled Rock permit, or do I need to keep my rocks seporated and out of reach of the driver, or even locked up in the trunk? What about High capasity rocks, or fragmentation rocks, what' the law say about those, or my Volcanic glass rocks, or do those require a special permit, and enhanced back ground check, a tax stamp and a 9 to 11 month waiting period!
     
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  19. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    There's a lot of practicality in that idea.

    A shooter in a trench coat might laugh at a few rocks tossed at him by "children" from 20 ft away, but nobody laughs at a a couple of dozen .50 cal. ball-bearings in the face that hit at an approximate speed of 50m/s to 150m/s. (164.042 ft/sec to 492.126).

    And they go a lot further than 20 ft.

    A lot of kids have a truly murderous skill with slingshots.

    Get the kind of slingshot that stores 8 rounds or so in the handle. All you need then is a box of 30 or so in each classroom.

    They could be kept in a briefcase carried by each teacher, ready to hand out when/if the alarm went off.

    If the kids were ready, a shooter that kicked a door open would probably be dead before it hit the wall.

    I bet the classroom drills would be a hoot...
     
  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    You want to see what untrained and "unarmed" people in superior numbers are capable of?
    Look up Haitian independence.
    Talk about grabbing anything that isn't bolted down and using it to beat your armed oppressors to a pulp.
     
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