Has WW III started

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by johnbb, Oct 1, 2024.


  1. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Iran has hit Israel with 200 rockets and Israel will retaliate ---it means their survival Bidumb has said the US will stand with Israel. Iran has ties to Russia, China, and N. Korea. This could get messy real quick
     
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  2. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Been at war for a couple years now. Question is only at what level and where. At some point the "oppisition" will say enough is enough and go full scale. Wouldn't want to be US pilot in Med when they say the US is bringing in more equipment and such and not rotating out people when there time is up.

    A ‘few thousand’ more US troops are headed to the Middle East

    US Navy warships targeted in "complex attack" on Red Sea

    Of course that latest escalation has been authorized by congress just as the overthrow of the elected government of the Ukraine was and all the aid we have sent. Now add the rest of the middle east and it gets interesting.

    Now add to the fun that there are no oilers in the area to supply the carriers or oil fired ships with fuel. Second supply ship to "run aground" in the Red Sea. Wonder if they had any help in doing so.

    US Navy Oiler Runs Aground, Forcing Carrier Strike Group to Scramble for Fuel

    Nice new 1991 ship. Where have all the dollars gone, long time passing.

    USNS Big Horn - Wikipedia
     
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  3. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    And my military industrial complex stocks went up today. I wonder why.
    Profit to be made boys, profit to be made.
     
  4. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I worry more about all those Illegals Pedo imported here, just waiting for the flag to drop and go Full Jihad on us HERE! A few thousand Mexicans and other south americans don't mean jack squat, it's the Goat Fuckers and the dudes we abandoned in Ass-ganastan we really need to worry about! Once shit goes loud, Israel does what needs doing, THAT'S likely when it all goes to hell!

    Gonna be pretty lonely for Ol' Chell here, with the rest of us tied up fending off the hoards of Illegals we invited in!
    As to Donald, I don't think he is gonna stop Israel from doing the thing, in fact, I bet he encourages them to step it up a few notches, so don't bet on DOnald "Saving Us" from what's coming, and If I were him, I would likely do the exact same thing! Jan 7th is when all the Mass Deportations began, we just have to survive until then, or we start stacking bodies!
     
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  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

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  6. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    looks to me like The Darkside has decided on the "war scam" this time around - couldn't get Bird Flu to fly high enough - Biden will give the orders to attack Iran directly - might be able to skim past getting any Russians killed >>>

    but the domestic terrorist attacks will start with a vengeance - might or might not even be real terrorists initially - The Darkside's Black Ops teams are more than ready to start murdering as many Americans as it takes - possibly even a large scale direct attack on a Trump Rally >>> out comes the martial law decree - elections need to be "delayed" - massive detainments of opposing Americans civil war replaces the terrorist threat - it's late 2026 and martial law is here to stay - no more talk of any elections
     
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  7. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    All that talking, I guess Iran doesn't have any nukes or they would have used them. It looks like that depopulation thing is going on everywhere and in many ways.
     
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  8. duane

    duane Monkey+++

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  9. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    WW3? No, I don't think so, at least, not officially. However, it will be a fight of proxies, long and hard, mainly because Iran's proxies have thousands of useless lives they can toss away without regards to the human cost. As far as the Ukraine/Russia war, I think Putin is looking for a way out while saving face because it must be obvious to even him that he is not taking all of the Ukraine.

    EDIT: Oh! And, China is the real winner in all of this.
     
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  10. duane

    duane Monkey+++

  11. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    Instant job creation rounding people up. TPTB opening the floodgates for so many it's just criminal. Just a few years back going through all the legal steps was a pain, even being run through a homeland security screening. I bet none of that happens now. We're so screwed.
     
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  12. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Putin just called for 190+ thousand more conscripts. The only way this stops is if the mothers of these conscripts say no you are not using my child for cannon fodder
     
  13. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    It won't stop until another 100,000 more Russians are dead and even then I doubt it will stop or Trump gets in and tells Putin and Zelenskyy to settle or else.

    Putin is not going to be able to take all of Ukraine, even he must know that by now, and his bullshit propaganda about Nazis and yada, yada, is now falling on deaf ears. Even with the mass causalities that the Russians have suffered the Ukrainians have been fighting with their hands tied by Biden so what happens when Trump says settle or we'll increase the flow of weapons and take the reins off Ukraine to strike deep within Russia?

    Zelenskyy has managed to keep his country free and alive due to Western countries providing support but what happens when Trump says settle or he stops the flow from America? Will the Europeans pick up the slack?

    Frankly, I'm thinking Putin wants Trump to win to give him a way out of this mess for another year of it and increasing sanctions will probably get him a bullet. Sanctions do work but take time, ask Iran or North Korea and they are hurting Russian growth and each year it will get worse.
     
  14. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Ukraine hate the Russians for what Stalin did -killed millions so they sided with the Nazi Germany against Russia --that does not make them Nazi. Finland sided with the nazi Germany when Russia invaded Finland that does not make them nazis. Putin is using this nazi thing as a straw man to justify his outright aggression.
     
  15. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    I did see the Asimov battalion with Nazi SS insignia. These were the folks shelling Dombask? killing over 14000 people. I bet Ukraine will become a giant buffer zone. NATO was wrong to interfere with regional issue. It's all a giant criminal enterprise with money laundering and international arms sales.
     
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  16. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Bidumb is pressing Israel not to take out Iranian oil fields --IMO ulterior motive he does not want gas prices to sky rocket here in there US prior to the election
     
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  17. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Nailed it!
     
  18. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    The troubles in Ukraine are extremely complex and it is too easy to just say, "We, the CIA, caused this" or "NATO expansion caused this" or etc... The troubles here are as complex as Bosnia, go back in history just as far, with deep, deep issues.

    Yes, the CIA did exert influence to get the President voted out of office. Yes, the Russian FSB did exert influence to keep their crony in office. The FSB lost and the CIA won. What is forgotten is the People of Ukraine, by their vote, wanted to join the EU, wanted to join NATO and for a damn good reason as was shown with the Russian invasion so much so that Finland and Sweden had an 'Oh shit!' moment and immediately joined NATO after sitting on the fence for decades. The Nazi crap is simply that - crap. Yes, there is one battalion that uses the Nazi emblem at times and even has some nazi members. Why? WW2. There were 3 main parties in Ukraine during the war: Pro-Soviet who wanted to keep Soviet status quo. Pro-Nazi who thought Hitler would free Ukraine upon the defeat of the Soviet Union and Pro-Ukraine who fought both other groups for a free and independent Ukraine. The last time I look at the Azov brigade I don't think there were enough Nazi members to form a platoon - compare that with the number of Nazis in America and remember both countries are democracies - meaning - you are free to be what you want even a Nazi.

    Also, remember the people of Ukraine have been fighting tooth and nail for almost 2 years to keep their country free. You cannot make a People fight no matter how you arm, train or threaten them. By their own blood, sacrifice and will they have shown they do not want to be part of Russia. That in itself should be the final answer to any and all questions and accusations. Everything else is mute and matters not at this point. I compare it to Japan's attack at Pearl Harbor. Hell, you can make the argument that America put Japan in a corner with no other way out, but it mattered not after the attack.

    EDIT: Personally, I think the Democrats and some Republicans support of the war is indeed because it makes laundering money so damn easy; however, that has nothing to do with the People of Ukraine wanting to be free to choose their own future without being subservient to Russia.
     
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  19. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I agree with much of what Bandit99 outlined. The issues are more nuanced than what would be conceded by those external actors who have vested interests in the outcomes of the conflict, either ceasing or continuing.

    The Germans were initially seen as liberators in 1941, but reality checking arrived very quickly...

    https://youtube.com/shorts/-MJioykUJtI?si=dmSsOANa0yhZQaqI
     
  20. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I think we are just returning to the historical norm of unconnected wars all over the place.

    A lot of these areas have been waiting to fight each other since WWII ended for some and the collapse of the USSR for others.
     
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