got an email today... cause I ask for the info when they got going good... and... https://www.inceptorammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/NewBullets_TechSheet_1-16-18_Print.jpg Load Data | Inceptor Ammunition
@OldDude49 - Might want to check these out. Same basic design and may be less expensive then the above bullets. Bullets Bullets