Now, not to be outdone, discovery channel is doing DOOMSDAY BUNKERS!!! Real good OPSEC, let's see your shelter as it is being built
I remember a few years back on a gear head/garage, maybe a survival forum, I think like back in 05' a guy posted up a thread with 50 pics of his under garage bunker being built, in a fairly nice neighborhood.. Recently (in the past year or two) I remember googling it and ran across the thread again, sans pics and many of his posts deleted..
I was sitting in the dentists chair today and I saw it on the TV they had in the room while I was waiting. I just shook my head and turned the TV off.. pulled out my mobile and hit Zerohedge for some reality checks.
Look at it this way - it gives the Golden Horde someone else to target besides us Gray Men. Diversion is a good tactic when the going gets nasty.
"first doomsday preppers" ??? I thought this was going to be a thread about Shem, Ham, and Japeth....
You understand ZeroHedge? I have my degree in Business Economics and I work for a Bank. Nevertheless, half that stuff is over my head.
OPSEC must be an imperative from the very start! Seems a bit after the horse has boltedish. You remember his not so "secret" place, and I dare say that others may have too. Sometimes if I see something online that is of interest, I will save whole pages for future reference....I dare say that others do that also....to be retrieved and incorporated into the intel plot at a later date. That is the reason why OPSEC, camouflage, concealment, and deception planning is important right from the very start, rather than an afterthought.
Never said I understood it all. The trader/market stuff, the super in-depth topics, are way over my head. That's when I skip to the comments and extract the underlying meanings. The money laundering and other topics on fraudulent money sloshing I can generally grasp. I've learned more about economics from ZH than any other place. So far, precious metals win..
I do that as well.. The whole time I was reading the thread/pics back then, I was thinking what kind of douchetard this guy was for posting all this stuff of bragging about it.. The profile fit though, the house, cars, manicured lawn.. I enjoyed the pics.. I like flipping tween MSNBC and FoxBIZ to see what they are spinning for the sheeple.. Then I read bloomberg and investors daily.. Its amazing the crap they spew, trying to put a silver lining on things.. My favorite Daily Show episode was when Jon Stewart HAMMERED that obnoxious Joe friggin Kramer, I can't stand that dude.. He seems to have toned down since the crash..
A secure place away from structures and hidden as something else is the best idea folks. If the structure above you can burn then you are screwed.
how are you screwed if the structure above burns? fire/heat goes up, if you have a good layer (as prescribed in many shelter building guides) of dirt/concrete tween you and surface, should be good? I know that all you need is to be 6" underwater to swim through/under an oil fire on water.. Just asking..
It would depend on where your Air Intake, and Air Exhaust were located. If inside an above ground burnable structure, then you would have a "Problem" If They were away from the burnable structure, then you may, or may not have an issue, depending on if you could isolate the Air system while the smoke was intense, and then reacquire Good Air after the fire had burned out. Hiding and camouflaging such Air Systems is a BIG Priority, in ANY Below Ground System. If they are know, and seen, then the System is vulnerable to attack, and that will force the occupants to the surface or die.... ..... YMMV....
I've thunk about, and never seen any plans, creating an air intake and exhaust outta perforated PVC pipe buried horizontally with the landscape... Using the ground as cover, of sorts.. Fireproof and no unsightly piping sticking up outta the ground.. Anybody think it's workable?
That's a good one, if you plan on having it near your house.. Kinda suspicious to have a clothesline dangling out in the middle of the woods.. Lol
I don't, but that's just me. Ground water will find its way in, and frozen ground won't allow air to get in. If inside warm(?) air gets out, the lack of snow cover will make it pretty obvious that something is there.