Browning A5 / Remington 11

Actually a Remington 20 ga Model 11.

 

I don't mean to be argumentative, but Barrow weapons
And it was first sold in the US in 1905.Model 11 Autoloading Shotgun

 

I lurk in and out.

Why? Do they say something different than the sources I gave you?

 

OK, I knew I had just read this not long ago, so I went and checked. According to Frank Hamer (he did not spell it "Hammer" as sometimes listed) it was a Remington M-11 20 ga. He was there at the shoot out and should know what he picked up.

 

I went to the Wiki article that Bruce was using and it is very poorly written. Remington Model 11 production began in 1905, and continued until 1947. When the Nazis over ran the FN plant in Belgium in 1940, Browning licensed Remington to continue production of the Browning Auto-5 along side their already produced Model 11. From 1940 through 1947 Remington produced both models in the same production facility, the Model 11 without the magazine cutoff, and the A-5 with the magazine cutoff. Savage also produced an A-5 copy, the Model 720, starting in 1930.

The shotgun in the photo is well documented, a 20 gauge Model 11 made to look like Clyde's "Whippet" BAR. I actually saw it somewhere, I don't remember if it was the Texas Ranger Museum or the Cody Museum (or somewhere else, I get around) and have always wanted to make one. But I just can't bear to cut up my Mdl 11.

So Bruce was using the resources he had, and they were definitely mis-leading. That particular Wiki article needs to be edited bad, but I don't know how.

 

Bruce,
The internet is filled with mistakes.

But rare that a disagreement is settled with this much class

 

@3cyl
That is why at 95% of the online forums; as it always yields a flame war folks don't waste their time. It is also why I and others are here.

 

You mean there are other forums out there?

 

Yup and I've lurked them. As a gardener, I wish I could get a few PU loads of that fine manure to till into my garden. I'd have every gardener here green with envy at the size of my yields.

 

I'm curious

Why was my post edited by a moderator? As I said nothing offensive; I'd appreciate an explanation as I said nothing wrong.

 

It seems many of the gun articles on Wikipedia are way out of whack. Yeah actually US rights were bought by Remington and most of the early US versions were made by Remington. I looked it up before I bought a new version A5 a few weeks ago. The new ones have a Benelli type recoil action.

 

Why was my post deleted? Merged with Tikkas?