Ammo right, don't no body worry about me.

Below is an excerpt from and article from 2013 right after the ammo and gun scare.
I recall as many did 30rd mags flew off the shelves, AK&AR's rose. The SKS went from a 299.00 gun seen everyone to being more slim and starting prices close to 400.00 average and higher according to some research on AL. I ten to look at Armlist as a more realistic view on firearms as Gunbroker often has high asking. The key is high asking prices not always but more average joes buy and sell on A.L.
No I am not going to preach to a choir of gun owners, I will however say I have owned firearms since the late 1960's as a kid and only the last 8 years has it been really tough, Prior the former Clinton helped a panic buy but at that time the internet was not around and people could not order bulk and diminish stocks of ammo.

Due to the threat of new gun control measures such as bans on semi-automatic rifles, high-capacity magazines, and a closing of the ( so called) background check loophole, people weren’t just buying guns for themselves. They were buying guns for their children and grandchildren, too.

Pretty soon, .22 LR vanquished completely from the shelves, and other ammo, handguns, rifles and shotguns increased to the point where some people couldn’t afford them. In some cases, ammunition had tripled in price. AR-15s and AK-47s disappeared from gun racks.

I just got thru reading a few articles today that basically say the same, Ar's while on sale at some stores mom and pops are raising their prices. I went around last week to several stores and even saw a man sell and get 475.00 for an SKS online at Armslist ( I know the guy did some previous transactions).
Now I am not bringing this up to panic people but we also should be aware this has the feel of 2011 all over again. I remember buying a several boxes of 22's for my son late 2011, only for most of it to be gone from store shelves in 6 months. I had my own stash but at once it was gone.
I can not keep track of all ammo but since the Club Shooting in Florida I have watched 223 and 7.62x39 rise steadily, so wonder if others notices as well. I also have noticed that supplies are dwindling again. Some suppliers I used last month are out of stock, with no back orders this month and there was not problem buying the last two years.
Like to open up a discussion anyone that's interested in what you are seeing in prices of ammo and firearms. I hate to talk about on one hand because then people panic, but then on the other its good to make sure everyone can get good accurate information.

 

The local news reported that guns sales were up but I personally haven't been to a gun store since the shooting

 

My local dealer, small shop, up to a couple days ago, wasn't selling much in AR or AK guns, the lever action and bolt actions were hard to keep in stock and the carbines,cheap 9 round mag pistols and shotguns were going like crazy. Seems like a lot of AR owners wanted a backup of a reproduction 1890's non mag gun. In 30-30, 308, 270 etc. Also a lot of interest in pump shotguns. Looks like people trying to fill possible holes just in case. Large dealer with younger clients can't keep AK or AR in stock and they don't seem to care about price. All filling in their "forms" and buying as quick as they can.

 

I have a different story to tell. I went looking for a specific, high-end AR type firearm and literary saw it fly off the shelves. They sold 11 (one store) in that day. They told me they have been selling an average of 8 per day of just this high price firearm since the Orlando shooting and before that it was maybe 1 ever 2-3 days. This was a store in North Dakota that I called who had their firearms on Gunbroker but every time I went to purchase the darn gun was sold. I finally gave up and called them direct.

My store here (and its a big one), as of Sunday afternoon, when I was picking up more ammo didn't have any low-end or mid-range ARs and the only two high-ends were a Beretta ARX-100 and a SCAR 17. It pissed me off because Saturday, I looked at a Sig 556, a Sig 516 and a Ruger SR556 Takedown and those were gone.They had nothing on the shelves in the way of AR and people were starting to look at the Springfield M1A (sweet rifle). They told me that even their distributor was dry... Ammo didn't seem to be a problem. I was in a panic because I would buy some then get home, rethink the problem then realize that I needed more so I would run back into town fearing there wouldn't be any left. I did this twice...but bought extra the second time. But, there wasn't a problem as I think people stocked up last time there was a fear of Banning. On the other hand, I wasn't in the country last time so...I had my fear purchasing this time.

The price of my 5.56 was 35 cents a round for bulk XM855 and 36.5 cents for XM193. I could have got the XM193 a bit cheaper but I like the way it was packaged. Both were Federal...so good pricing but we'll see this week what happens because the pallet was about empty.

 

Both ammo and firearms are going out the door as fast as they hit the shelf. But honestly sales of both have been brisk for awhile even before this latest terr attack.

All I can say is folks please, please get your protection basics covered ASAP. It is my firm belief that the chimp in chief and his followers will end up with another ban of some sort, and soon. I know we all have budget concerns, but this needs to be at the top IMO. If you don't have a way of keeping what's yours- you won't plain and simple. Go to gun clubs, shooting ranges, make contacts. Scrounge brass from wherever whenever you can. Doesn't matter what calibre it is. You can sell it, trade it towards what you do need. Learn to reload. It isn't hard, and it's fun for many of us. I'm in the process of buying up used reloading equipment for back ups and caching. I bought a nice used Lyman T-mag press(old model) for under 80 bucks off of Ebay last week. I now have a complete basic reloading set up ready to use or put away for 200 bucks. Every piece except the dies are used. One of the powder measures is almost as old as I am but I got it like new and in the original box for way less than 1/2 the cost of a new one! I believe that the .gov knows they will have a $h!tstorm on their hands when they get an all out ban on firearms. So they do what they can do, they are buying up huge quantities of ammo. A firearm is just an expensive club without ammunition, and they know that as well as anybody.
Make your purchases in common calibres, .22LR ,9MM, .40S&W, .38/.357Mag, .45ACP, .223/5.56mm, .308/7.62x51mm, 7.62x39mm.
I love my .300 Winchester Mag but you ain't gonna want to buy 1k rounds of that over the counter I promise ya.

I know this stuff can be a strain on the budget but have a yard sale, sell some old unused stuff on craigslist, whatever a person needs to do but if you have holes in this area they really need to be bumped to the head of the list because time is short.

My

 

You bought an AR a long time ago and haven't even fired it.
P****.
xo
MG

 

Didn't want to be the one running in the streets telling the sky is falling alone glad others are seeing the same signs.
I found a place FYI outdoorlimited.com the prices on ammo was pretty good when I compared to others out there shipping was not bad either. I am trying to check around a bit in case it gets short for some . I have ordered from them but not had the items yet will let anyone know thats interested how they are. They ship with in two business days of order.

 

All the magpul AR mags were gone from the local Gander Mountain yesterday....

 

This is why we stack during the non-panic times. Not only don't I need to buy anything, I have enough surplus that I bought specifically as an investment that can be turned for a profit in panic times.

 

I use this site they are very good
The Armory

and this site
LuckyGunner.com

 

Some people think that this is dirty pool- planning on "taking advantage of people" I think of it as investing in your future. No different than any other investment, you expect a return. My "hard asset portfolio" is what I call that.

 

Haven't been since the Orlando incident, but my 7.62x39 was stocked pretty good the week before. Will visit some stores this weekend and report........

 

Seems to be a mixed bag based on my own observations right now. I'm not seeing ammo flying off the shelves at the local store and while some of the local GS's seem a bit busier than they were 2 weeks ago, it doesn't (yet) look like it did back in 2013, post SH. I'm still seeing ammo online for about the same prices. A few guns seem to have gone up in price, a bit, but not by much. But that said, if this assault on our rights continues for a few more weeks, and if it looks more and more like Hillary is going to win, we may see a shortage of ammo and guns far worse than 2013. I'm not in panic mode myself, I learned my lesson years ago. I continue to pick up a little ammo here and there, but can always use a bit more.

I'm hopeful that if a run on guns starts again, it brings in even more new shooters and develops more pro-gun voters. As it sits, the poll numbers for Trump are sliding, if that trend continues, 2017 could be a very bad year...4 years...for us all.

 

I don't even "expect" a return...I just see an opportunity to turn surplus goods into profit that can be reinvested into the same or other preps. Of course there are people who see that as dirty pool...I think we call them commies, socialists and SJWs.

 

I order from them but this last week I found that Outdoor Limited
I like Lucky gunner really reliable service I am hoping these guys are good too. Guess i'll find out in a day or so.

Locally here they have magpulls $9.95 I don't have AR's but they are a good price.

 

When I click on the link I get something other then a ammo site???

 

Sorry I fixed it typed in the wrong url .
Outdoor Limited

 

thanks

 

SGAmmo.com is a really good site to use for ammo.

5.45mm is really selling fast. SG's stock in 5.45 has fallen through the floor. Their laqour sealed milspec is now out. Their 9mm inventory fell quick too. In fact, they went to negative digits on certain categories.

It is unreal how quick these ammo runs happen. Haven't even looked at firearms. Was saving up for a SIG 716......probably not going to happen now.