cold survival

how many of you could go outside with your BOB in the cold weather we are having and live through the night? do you have what it takes to survive this subzero weather?

 

No!

I've been I've very interested in this exact thought all week. and am currently typing
"knee deep" in knives. tarps , compasses, multiple sleeping bags, food and water and.several open back packs

I've almost come to the realization one standard backpack is suicide. but snow campers make use of snowshoes and deep plastic sleds or toboggans to haul excess cold weathergear.
I am not sufficiently equipped in "expedition "coldweather outer clothes or bags to live in -20 to -30 conditions. for days.
damn good thread( for a lasvegas zombie)!We are supposed to climb above zeroid tomorrow for the first time in days.above zero is uncomfortable, but doesn't require any extreme gear (no problem)..
a snowcave would help. but these brutal conditions are beyond my experience and capacity..
one night in a snow cave perhaps, but 72hoursof -18 or-20, would be a fatal test of endurance.

"Sir we're from FEMA please get in the truck for transport to your relocation camp..."
"what's the temp out here ?
" -18,-30 with the windchill
"okay h-h-hold my rifle.. are we there yet?"

food for thought.

 

One thing I do have along is a small zipper pull thermometer( whistle/ compass/ decoder ring). good information ( how cold is cold?)

 

i've come to the conclusion that it's impossible to tote everything i will need so i will be just sticking it out on my property and standing my ground.i feel it's better to stay where you know the land then to bug out to a place where your a stranger in a strange land. so i figure i'll just keep stocking up on stuff and hope for the best over here there will be no bugging out for me .

 

Have to agree, figured out long ago bugging out to nowhere in particular is a bad idea.If you are packing a bag to get home from work that's one thing but to just head out in severe conditions is a non-starter. From the "bison survivalblog"
:http://bisonsurvivalblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/bob-firearm.html

B firearm

BOB FIREARM
Visions of the firearm to bug out with were probably formed years ago when you viewed a now defunct slick paper mass circulation magazine. A manly man graced the cover, cleft chin jutting out, muscles rippling, tanned skin gleaming, a full head of hair perfectly groomed, clutching a full size battle rifle with ease, the end of civilization a mere adventure to him. In reality, a stooped sweaty fat guy with no hair, laboring for breath as he stumbles along wishing he had another pack of Camels drags a shotgun by the barrel with its stock trailing in the dirt, the backpack filled with all the tools necessary to sustain civilization now long abandoned for its weight, cursing the very Gods that rained this hell down on him.
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Being in the pacific NW I’ve never been in sub zero, but I can survive quite comfortably in 10 degrees f, I’ve never been in anything any colder.

I was going to make a thread about this but I might as well piggy back it here.

How do gun powers, primers, lubricants do in –50f conditions?

And also are Mickey Mouse boots as warm as they’re touted to be,
I’ve read they work down to –60f?

 

well accually your half right !! right now yes the stuff is stored in the house but i plan on making a 3/8 plated box then building a cement cender block wall around it to store my stuff in . the shed will be about 10'x10' there would be a strong lock box inside and then the walls will be cemented cender blocks with pipes running up through them to rienforce them . then i'm gonna run pipe across the top to make the top of the roof crush proof . i have the pipes and some of the blocks i just need a few more i figure about one more year and it will be done. the only electricity in the shed will be from a generator or 12 volts or a plus in for a house hook up when i ned to get into it at night. other than that there isn't gonna be any juice going to it so there shouldn't be any chance of a wire shorting out and catching fire. so for now i just gotta hope my house don't burn down.lol

 

Well, here is a good chance to throw in my .02. mickey mouse boots or "bunny boots" as they are more commonly known up here are bar none the warmest youre gonna get. if youre going to do a lot of walking in them, wrap your shins in duct tape where the tongue folds... trust me.
As far as guns and ammo, i've never had issues down to -45 or so. however, for storage, i reccomend a lot of grease on exposed metal. i left my cabin for a few weeks and my rock chucker reloading press was ruined ( condensation). now i lather the exposed part in generic grease and cover it with a towel.

 

With my BOB winter setup I could, My sleeping bag and Bivy cover take up half the weight of my Alice medium and by no means would I be able to do this in comfort. It would take some sort of insulated shelter to be able to do this on a continuous basis.

 

I've seen two sets of "mickey" boots. One has an air valve and one does not. I would assume that the one with the air valve is the better model? Is this the case?

 

I would hate to leave all of the hand tools and other stuff that would come in handy. We could get by without it but it would sure be nice to have it. Not only that, I have not come up with a good way to put the fruit trees in the BOB.

OGM

 

Actually, no. The Mickey Mouse boots with the air valve is issued to Airborne troops. The valve being opened at high altitudes. I have both types, they both keep your feet warm and dry.

One word of advice though, buy them in the largest size which is like 12 1/2. You could then buy civi type felt boot liners to even increase there warmth factor.

 

Ah ha. I thought it had to do with a pocket of air that helped insulate. Cool thanks for the info.

 

bug out to no where(knowwhere?)=instant"refugee".