Altor 9mm. The gun you have to have if you hate 9mm

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by oil pan 4, Aug 21, 2020.


  1. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Most manufactured hollow points are pretty much useless in 380acp. There's only about 2 at any given time that are worth a poop and they charge accordingly.
    I can load 380 with Hornady xtp bullets, use a stout charge of unique and get some expansion.
    I'm sure the max load of AA7 in a carbine will expand.
     
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  2. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The real no shit sadgley oss:
     
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  4. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    I got a High-Point C-9, because I wanted a cheap 9mm and it shots pretty good!
     
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  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    They definitely serve a purpose and if I just started out and needed a pistol it would be better than nothing.
     
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  6. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Well, I'm not just starting out and it does serve a purpose...I'm just not at liberty to share that information...with ANYONE!
     
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Altor is back?
    In rang tv dropped 1 day ago.

    I didn't know they sold accessories.
    I got the blacked out threaded barrel because it looks cool and a 380 barrel because the receiver is the same for both guns. I already got a ton of 380 ammo, been reloading 380 for about 20 years now. I can thread and sell the original 9mm barrel to cover most of the cost of the blacked out threaded one.
    I assumed the receivers would be different since 9mm and 380 use different shell holders. Guess it's close enough, I wouldn't recommend trying to size a 380 case in a 9mm shell holder.
     
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  8. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

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  9. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    Junk
     
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  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    It's a hundred dollar gun.
    I invite anyone who thinks they can do better to do it.
     
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  11. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Got the barrel threaded, put my dumb no moving parts silencer on it. It's like a trailer park welrod.
    I have been doing some testing, bullets appear to tumble. The current altor load is 4.5gr of wst under a 90gr xtp I don't think 4.5gr and that barrel length have enough umph to open up the xtp. It's basically a start load for a 9mm and max load if it were a 380.
    I'm going to try and get one over the chronograph.
    90gr golddots are back in stock at midway usa dot com I'll probably try loading some up with 3 to 3.5gr of nitro100nf which is almost the fastest burning shit ever made aside from guncotton.
    Maybe use a rifling broach and force it down the barrel with the log splitter and get some actual rifling. I bet 27 tons of force will compel it down the bore.
     
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  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Well I figured out why I couldn't find those 90gr xtp bullets when fired from the Beretta, they break up and nothing is left of them.
    4.5gr of wst is plenty of oomph if you have 5 inchs of barrel that offers an interference fit to the bullet and creates ballistic stability.
     
  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I sluged the bore on the altor it's about .351"ish should be able to smash a "9mm broach" down the barrel so I ordered one.
     
  14. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    @oil pan 4

    How much have you got in the $100 pipe gun so far? [ROFL]

    I understand though. God knows how much effort I found in collecting an old section of railroad iron and forming it into an substandard anvil!
     
  15. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Not as much as he has in that S&W Model 27 clone! :LOL:
     
  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    $50 rifling broach, that I'll use on other things, I'll use it at least 3 times as of today.
    The 380 barrel was $39, I have been reloading 380 ammo for nearly 20 years so I got a lot of 380.
    The blacked out threaded barrel was $79, didn't need it, got just because I thought it looked cool.
    The blacked out threaded barrel wasn't available when I originally bought it.
    I threaded the original 9mm barrel and got the 380 barrel and also threaded. It cost one of 3 sides on an indexable thread cutting insert. I chipped it seeing how fast and deep I could go.
    Still way under the cost of the welrod by about several times.
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Just a used barrel $60 with shipping plus tax and houge oversized rubber grips that were like $25 on sale. Didn't have to get the grips or barrel. It had clearly been heavy used since it was squibbed.
    The original wood grips were just worn but definitely serviceable.
    I just prefer my barrels not bulged and if the gun is going to be that big it might as well fit my hand too.
     
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  18. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I have succeed in rifling an altor barrel.
    Bullets fly straight now.

    So if anyone wants 1/2-28 threaded stainless 380 or 9mm barrels that will actually fire a bullet straight that will be $100 or your old straight non-threaded barrel plus $80 or your old threaded barrel plus $50.
    IMG_20240413_231615_4.
    Both bullets are 90gr xtp intended for a 380acp, loaded in 9mm. Same load of powder for both and fired from the same barrel, before and after rifling. The unfired looking bullet hit a water jug sideways or backwards the other is the same kind of bullet from the same box, fired on a ballistic trajectory into water jugs.
    IMG_20240413_231302_7.
    Before rifling looking up at my fan.

    IMG_20240413_231459_7.
    After rifling. Its rough, but it's there and it works.
     
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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Did another test. With number 41 small rifle primer ammo this time. It busts off Winchester No.41s just fine, still makes a nice deep dent.
     
  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The altor load, that pipsqueak 4.5gr load of WST under a 90gr bullet does 1,070fps out of the rifled altor barrel.
    That's why it was flattened out like a nickel, was only designed for 380 velocity, around 900fps.
    The next gen altor load will use the same bullet since it's working and use a little bit less of a much faster powder, nitro100nf to get between 380acp velocity and 1,100fps to make it even quieter.
     
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