Who you will vote for and why...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bandit99, Dec 3, 2023.


  1. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I hate to say it but I am at that point also; however, what I fear is what exactly happened in Germany in the 1930's. Germany was a washed in immoral conduct, Berlin was the pervert capital of the world! The economy was shot, left and right ideology fought and rioted in the streets, the government was weak, corrupt, and pretty much useless, crime was everywhere. It was a mess, a horrible real mess. The Germans being a proud, nationalistic people with a rich history wanted their country back. I find the parallels disturbing. So, while I can no longer stomach the Left's insanity we must always be cautious and aware.

    I get that by participating we are legitimizing what we know is wrong and corrupt; however, much has been done to correct the problems and have honest and legal elections. Yes, there will still be fraud and much more still needs to be done but that should not mean we simply throw our hands up and quit, for to do so is exactly what the opposition wants. Personally, I don't believe the lower elections have been honest for quite a while but don't think the presidential election was rigged until 2020 as always been too much scrutiny, however, Trump forced them to act, and it turned out well for them so they will obviously do it again. Nevertheless, I cannot support this position, but I do understand your point.

    @Ura-Ki I think your 75% reduction, across the board, in all agencies and dismantling some agencies would have an immediately improvement on the economy, our national debt (since we could place the savings there) and our freedoms. I am sure that Trump intends to get busy the first day of work but doubtful he will go that far...unfortunately. I still don't see how he or anyone can deport 12 million illegals, just doesn't seem economically feasible to me. Yeah, it must be done but how... given we're already broke. I do think the FBI needs to be dismantled, it can't be saved as it has become more and more obvious, they consider themselves above the law and have become political police, much like the Gestapo or NKVD, not a law enforcement agency. I think they are the #1 fear we should all have and should be given the highest priority to eradicate because I don't think they can be fixed.
     
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  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    You're entitled to your opinion, but this has been proven wrong. I thought you would know better by now not to spread rumors and lies. Sitting down there far removed from America isn't exactly a position to be regurgitating CIA Media talking points. The only elections stolen are the ones Liberals are "winning", that's all proven. Every crime laid upon Trump is invalid, again proven. He is being purposefully targeted because he is the front runner, it's already obvious enough. The entire "scandal" with the 2016 election was all a Leftist lie, mostly Hillary and her FBI. And now look at how things have become? It became a smoke screen for the biggest voting scandal in history which ushered in the radical leftist extremists and their trans pride parade. You had better get your shit straight, Chel.
     
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I'm thinking the only solution includes rooftops and a lot of smoke.
    Dude, you can remain an optimist all you want. Just don't expect me to be one, too. ;)
     
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  4. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

  5. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Oh no, Broker. No, no, no... I am definitely not an optimist, certainly not when it comes to this, actually never. All I am saying is it is better to vote than throw your vote away, which is a win for the opposition. Whether it is counted correctly or changed is an entirely different subject and problem set. Furthermore, I think we will see your rooftops and smoke this 2024-2025.
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    You are one of the good ones, bro. :cool:
     
  7. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    $50,000 is $50,000, even if you are a millionaire! Glad to know that Vivek knows the value of a dollar.
     
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  8. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    and a grifter is a grifter, whether a politician or lawyer.....

    He is one (lawyer) and is trying like hell to also be the other.

    No thanks.
     
  9. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    That makes Vivek seem like a welfare queen, sponging on the state, so despised by MAGA Republikans. He should be self reliant, and pull himself up by his own bootstraps, and pay for his own goddamn college tuition fees himself....or at least do as many impoverished students do who don't share his financial wealth, and take out a goddamn lifetime student loan! Methinks he is an hypocrite...but, given the 'Mango Mussolini's' fiscal shenanigans, Vivek is a serious 'hold my beer' POTUS challenger to tRump.
     
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  10. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I'll vote for a dead coons ass before I vote for a Democrat,,,,,
     
  11. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Aw, don't speak disrespectfully of Donald The Magnificent that way. Damning with faint praise, is still damning. ;)
     
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  12. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    Yep ,, that's exactly what I expected to hear from you . Carry on ,,
     
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  13. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    Does it matter? The voting machine system is so incredibly flawed that even without intentional human malicious intent the things cannot and do not report correct results reliably. It's a shame that I have to add this, but in today's world where nuance has gone extinct, I am not saying that all of the voting machines are giving bad results. What I am saying is that there has been enough documented incidents in which human error, or errors that are just, I don't know, maybe gremlins cast doubt on the credibility of these machines. And then add in that they are connected to the internet and hackers exist, well come on they have successfully gotten in to the U.S. Nuclear Weapons system, do you think they cannot remotely hack into a glorified TRS-80.. Also, where I live in Michigan one party controls the vote. There are supposed to be representative from another party, but they just get thrown out of the building for "watching". An election doesn't actually need to be rigged, it only requires that the populace doubt's it's integrity for the whole house of cards to come crashing down.

    I'll go through the motions and cast my vote, but in my opinion it's already over. Western civilization had a good run, but in the end too many people would rather have the "safety" of living with a boot on their neck than the freedom to live with the inherent risks that come with living free.
     
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  14. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Live free , or die ,,,
    That's a statement I believe is going to be understood by many in just a short period of time .
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Screenshot_20240118-142804~2.
     
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  16. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    couldn't be eazier >>> the losers will be voting for Biden - the REAL losers won't be voting at all or picking some 3rd Party troll candidate, like themselves, that actually think they are relevant .....
     
  17. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Won't be Biden. Look for a last minute replacement by Michelle Obama. Last minute in an attempt to prevent preparation by Trump (won't work, if I can see it they can). Biden is so unelectable they may not be able to cheat enough for a plausible win. Newsom has proven to be a loser, so this is the only viable alternative. When people get excited, say, next September about her candidacy kindly remind them her only professional success was a patient dumping scheme to save the Healthcare System she worked for tons of money. Too bad for the displaced patients, but at least she got a nice fat bonus.
     
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  18. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Vote for big mike.
    You might be asking what's big mike done for you lately?
    Heeee I mean she gave Obama a black eye and got away with it and is the reason Obama seems to have trouble getting comfortable when sitting down.
     
  20. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    and that is why CONgress is such a simmering cesspit of corruption
     
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