Who you will vote for and why...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bandit99, Dec 3, 2023.


  1. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    No, limited to 2 terms, and he would be too old!
     
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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @Ura-Ki I think your point about Trump VP pick being so important is really valid because we would want the VP to run for the Presidency in 2028 and carry on. The way I see it, Trump will come in with a wrecking ball and really do the nasty stuff, while at the same laying the groundwork for the future but change takes time and much will need to be accomplished by the VP in the role of President come 2028. So, I think his pick of VP is critical. I think Vivek would be perfect; however, politically a female probably would be better. Personally, my favorite female is Kari Lake. Yeah, I know, she doesn't have the experience of a Noem, Sanders, Green or Nikki Haley but maybe that's good and she definitely has the passion, is super well-spoken and has tons of experience to handle the media. Besides, I really like her message. So, Vivek or Lake for VP would be my pick. Anyway, I totally agree, his VP pick is extremely important as it will be defining the future and I do think Trump will win...if they don't kill him.
     
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  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Here's the Deal, the Dems are playing for keeps here, and they are propping up Biden as their Horse until the last minute. then they will toss him aside and slip in Gov. Gavin Newsome in his place as their Big Dog to run for POTUS, which as we see, they are playing games! I have been watching the Gavster since he first took office, that dude is a Tyrant of the worst kind, and would absolutely destroy this country with his wokester ideals! We absolutely must prevent his assentation at all costs, or we will surely be destroyed! We know the Gavster is running a shadow campaign using undeclared dark money ( Which he is getting away with because he has not officially declared his run for office, and thus, not subject to disclosures) so we see his intent and the game afoot,
    then we have his appearance on stage in the debates against Ron DeSantis ( Which was a serious gamble) as we saw DeSantis absolutely mop the floor with the Gavster, and we see the Left running with the narrative that the Gavster stood up well against DeSantis, which we know is a absolute lie, Desantis absolutely DESTROYED Newsome in the debates, which should flat ruin the Gavsters chances at running for any office, even head Turd Herder, FUCK that guy!!
     
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  4. jim2

    jim2 Monkey+++

    Since the last election was blatantly stolen with no repercussions, and no action from the RNC we are now basically a Banana Republic. I will not bother to vote, and they may continue with their Kabuki dance uninterrupted by me pretending to cast a vote that will be counted.

    If voting worked, then it would not be allowed.

    Jim
     
  5. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    It’s your prerogative to do what you wish with your vote. Just realize there are forces/interests out there that want you to be frustrated enough to NOT bother to cast a vote.
     
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  6. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    Christie for sure - he promises a Crispy Cream on every corner - who is is going to promise that and carry thru?
     
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  7. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I will vote -----hope springs eternal that the spineless republicans will see to it the election is honest.
     
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  8. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I admit, I do not understand the thinking that by not voting one is taking the moral high ground and doing the right thing. It's not right. It's total wrong because, in short, it means they win. They beat you. It's nothing more than they have broken you and you freely give up your right to vote, a right as a citizen. I'm not saying the game isn't rigged. It mostly likely is, in fact, I would bet it is, however, that matters not - well - it matters greatly to the nation but not to this individual, not to this specific point. I guess what I am saying is if I decide I will not vote because the elections are a scam or there is no one I like as a candidate or etc. - they win. It is one less vote they have to cheat to counter. However, it is more than that because they took away one of my rights by slowly melting away my determination, my resolve and they didn't even have to take that right from me - I gave it to them. So, no. Never. The game might be rigged and/or there might not any candidate I give a damn for (there's ALWAYS a candidate to vote against!) but I will vote or they will physically have to stop me. I sure as hell ain't doing it to myself.

    @Ura-Ki I looked at Biden today and...he looks like hell! There is no way he can do another term. I doubt if he can finish this one. So, with Newsom going to China (WTH?) and then some whacko debate with the DeSantis (who ever heard of this before?) - well - I think you are right. Yeah, I saw the debate and Newsom got his a$$ handed to him. What is confusing is why they are playing this charade that Biden is going to run again. Yeah, that's got me confused... Anyway, I am pretty sure come end of 2024 and into 2025 the crap will hit the fan and we all need to be prepared for it.
     
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  9. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I've pointed out "The Great Hack" video that explains how Cambridge Analytica did this in Trinidad and Tobago. They were able to convince the segment of the population that was larger to not vote, and it worked. Here is a two minute and fifty three second video on how they did it, and bragged about it. Are there people out there trying to do it to us?
     
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  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I predict the nation is going to love Whitmere in office. Michiganders already know what the rest of the country is in for.
     
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  11. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Yeah, this is exactly what I mean. Thanks! Voting is a chore, time consuming and more times than not, we are disappointed with the results so it is very easy to simply say, "Screw it. It's all rigged anyway so why vote" but frankly that's a reason to ensure you vote, get it on record and not let them beat you. Apathy is extremely easy to succumb to and why it affects Republicans more than Democrats is a mystery to me...perhaps because being right-minded were more logic based instead of emotional based. Dunno. I do know the Democrats seem never to have a problem getting their people to turn out to vote...or perhaps they just stuff the ballot boxes better and it has nothing to do with turn out. LOL! :)
     
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  12. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I like Joe, Weithers I like it or not I like Joe
    I may vote for someone else but at the end of the day Joe gets my vote
     
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  13. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    President Trump (GOD I still love the sound of that) needs to fire half of the career bureaucrats on his second day in office! Just walk in and fire everyone on the odd or even numbered floors in Federal office buildings, and everyone on the top floors! YOU'ER FIRED! For most cabinet positions he needs to hire any Jack or Jill off the streets, as the secretaries are just figureheads with staff to do all of the real work, plus they would have no hidden agendas and be loyal to the President!
     
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  14. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    You could always vote against Nicky Hailey in 2028, if she runs.
     
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I get it, I do. We would all like to think our vote counts. Even if our vote is stolen and applied to the other candidate as has been done many times, it's comforting to think there's a democratic process, even if it is a scam. It's probably because if we accept the fact that voting doesn't work, we no longer live in a free society. It's not about them "winning" or us "losing". Most people just don't know what to do once their fragile reality collapses. The Electoral College is a corrupt process in its native form. The utilization of machine voting is wholly corrupt as well. Mail-in ballots and extended voting periods equals absolute corruption. Let's face it, the bad guys have already won.

    I haven't even gotten to the worst part. Public Law is something that most people don't even understand. This entire system we live under is a Constitutional Dictatorship -the Emergency War Powers in full force requires specialized legal arrangements because it would be impossible to regulate, punish and police, and control the functions of government under Constitutional mandate and common law. The creation of these codified "laws" were therefore necessary. And if you know anything about the rule of necessity and how it was invoked in 1933 with FDR, then you will understand the significance. All of this was needed because of the creation of an unconstitutional monetary system which would require legitimacy to function. The term "colorable" in relation to law means having the appearance and substance of law but being wholly void of law. Think Uniform Commercial Code, Federal Reserve Code, United States Code, and every State Code in existence. The term "legal" pertains to the operation within the corporate and admiralty (or law of merchants) jurisdiction. When we speak about Public Law, we must always remember that it is empowered by the will of the People. This means that if you support the process, if you agree to it, sign your name, take active part, or function within its domain, then you provide the legitimacy of its operation.

    No matter how corrupt the system becomes, if we assign our name to it, if we take part in it, if we conduct our business within its scope, if we believe in it...and we end up with a totalitarian dictatorship...

    Who should we really blame, ultimately?
     
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  16. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Sadly, we are heading toward this
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    The 1932 German election ballot featured 36 parties, many of which existed only on paper. The number of different groups made it difficult for any single party to gain a majority in parliament in the Weimar Republic.

    That didn't end well. For pretty much everyone.

    Divide and con...you know, the thing.
     
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  17. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    ^^^^This^^^^
    Going into the elections, TRUMP absolutely NEEDS to be building his "Team" of advisers NOW, people Loyal to him, people who will tell him what to do, how to do it, and not allow him to go off script, what he doesn't need ( And cannot afford) are a bunch of "Yes Men" who pay lip service and then tell him all the ways he cannot get things done, or what he cannot do as POTUS! That was his failing the last time! Second, starting DAY #1, he and his team need to hit the ground running, the Oval Office needs to look like a Battle Field Triage Tent with staffers running the phones and e-mails and the printers in the basement spewing out thousands and thousands of Pink Slips!
    EVERY SINGLE GOV. AGENCY needs it head count cut by at least 75% DAY ONE, PERIOD HARD STOP! On Day 2, many of those Fed Agencies need to be disbanded, ATF, IRS, CDC, FDA, Homeland, and all the others, and he needs to STOP the Patriot Act, and rescind ALL of Obummer/Bidens Executive orders and any others that have been allowed to survive through to Now!
    Gut the Military head count, FIRE or RETIRE at least 60% Senior officers and command staff, and at least 50% senior/carrier enlisted, especially from the E-4 Mafia on up, if you don't serve in a critical/justifiable roll and hold good ratings in the job, as well as a good record, your outta there, pack your shit and exit the front gate under armed guard, GTFU!

    POTUS has extraordinary executive powers, and TRUMP absolutely needs to invoke them, most of what needs doing needs to bypass congress, otherwise it would be a shit storm and they would have serious grounds to remove him, but acting under his authority as POTUS, he is untouchable! He needs to hold that authority for at least 2 years in order to get done all the things he can do, all the while, remaining above congress and everyone else who could challenge him! That also means holding States feet to the fire, denying fed funding to all blue states until they back off the woke and other radical agendas, and force recall efforts in those states to rid the corruption from the top down, and YES, POTUS has the powers to directly challenge the states leadership from the Oval Office! Make the states Bleed Red, and you solve half the countries problems.

    Trump is going to have to change how he operates, No more mean tweets, no more name calling, or other jabs, he needs to lock himself up in the Oval Office and keep his god damn mouth shut, the only time we ever hear from him directly is through normal public appearances, and not random tweets and other social media sources, keep the left guessing, and keep the congress at arms reach, he needs to tell them exactly what he is going to do, regardless of party and party agenda, and tell them to hold on for the ride, that they cannot and will not block him! Part of this and it's success goes back to building his "Team" he needs to gather every Congress Critter and Senator that supports him, and hold their feet to the fire, get them on board with everything he is planning, and get them to keep their word to support him all through out everything that happens!
     
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  18. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Just remember, a far right deity in office can bring about tyranny just as easily as one on the far left.
    It's enslavement by design.
    It's cultivated by the very same arbiters of order out of chaos.
    And even though I'd love to see Trump kick the scumbags to the curb as much as most of you...

    This story will be dictated by the powers behind the scenes, who pull the strings and make history with or without our consent.
     
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  19. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Unfortunately, I gotta agree with you there Chell.:(
     
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  20. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I would prefer a far right government over a far left at this point.
     
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