Most manufactured hollow points are pretty much useless in 380acp. There's only about 2 at any given time that are worth a poop and they charge accordingly. I can load 380 with Hornady xtp bullets, use a stout charge of unique and get some expansion. I'm sure the max load of AA7 in a carbine will expand.
They definitely serve a purpose and if I just started out and needed a pistol it would be better than nothing.
Well, I'm not just starting out and it does serve a purpose...I'm just not at liberty to share that information...with ANYONE!
Altor is back? In rang tv dropped 1 day ago. I didn't know they sold accessories. I got the blacked out threaded barrel because it looks cool and a 380 barrel because the receiver is the same for both guns. I already got a ton of 380 ammo, been reloading 380 for about 20 years now. I can thread and sell the original 9mm barrel to cover most of the cost of the blacked out threaded one. I assumed the receivers would be different since 9mm and 380 use different shell holders. Guess it's close enough, I wouldn't recommend trying to size a 380 case in a 9mm shell holder.
If I had one, I would absolutely have to drill the base of the grip and install an air chuck. That and a set of stickers. https://www.cp-swag.com/product-page/chicago-pneumatic-vinyl-decal
Got the barrel threaded, put my dumb no moving parts silencer on it. It's like a trailer park welrod. I have been doing some testing, bullets appear to tumble. The current altor load is 4.5gr of wst under a 90gr xtp I don't think 4.5gr and that barrel length have enough umph to open up the xtp. It's basically a start load for a 9mm and max load if it were a 380. I'm going to try and get one over the chronograph. 90gr golddots are back in stock at midway usa dot com I'll probably try loading some up with 3 to 3.5gr of nitro100nf which is almost the fastest burning shit ever made aside from guncotton. Maybe use a rifling broach and force it down the barrel with the log splitter and get some actual rifling. I bet 27 tons of force will compel it down the bore.
Well I figured out why I couldn't find those 90gr xtp bullets when fired from the Beretta, they break up and nothing is left of them. 4.5gr of wst is plenty of oomph if you have 5 inchs of barrel that offers an interference fit to the bullet and creates ballistic stability.
I sluged the bore on the altor it's about .351"ish should be able to smash a "9mm broach" down the barrel so I ordered one.
@oil pan 4 How much have you got in the $100 pipe gun so far? I understand though. God knows how much effort I found in collecting an old section of railroad iron and forming it into an substandard anvil!
$50 rifling broach, that I'll use on other things, I'll use it at least 3 times as of today. The 380 barrel was $39, I have been reloading 380 ammo for nearly 20 years so I got a lot of 380. The blacked out threaded barrel was $79, didn't need it, got just because I thought it looked cool. The blacked out threaded barrel wasn't available when I originally bought it. I threaded the original 9mm barrel and got the 380 barrel and also threaded. It cost one of 3 sides on an indexable thread cutting insert. I chipped it seeing how fast and deep I could go. Still way under the cost of the welrod by about several times.
Just a used barrel $60 with shipping plus tax and houge oversized rubber grips that were like $25 on sale. Didn't have to get the grips or barrel. It had clearly been heavy used since it was squibbed. The original wood grips were just worn but definitely serviceable. I just prefer my barrels not bulged and if the gun is going to be that big it might as well fit my hand too.
I have succeed in rifling an altor barrel. Bullets fly straight now. So if anyone wants 1/2-28 threaded stainless 380 or 9mm barrels that will actually fire a bullet straight that will be $100 or your old straight non-threaded barrel plus $80 or your old threaded barrel plus $50. Both bullets are 90gr xtp intended for a 380acp, loaded in 9mm. Same load of powder for both and fired from the same barrel, before and after rifling. The unfired looking bullet hit a water jug sideways or backwards the other is the same kind of bullet from the same box, fired on a ballistic trajectory into water jugs. Before rifling looking up at my fan. After rifling. Its rough, but it's there and it works.
Did another test. With number 41 small rifle primer ammo this time. It busts off Winchester No.41s just fine, still makes a nice deep dent.
The altor load, that pipsqueak 4.5gr load of WST under a 90gr bullet does 1,070fps out of the rifled altor barrel. That's why it was flattened out like a nickel, was only designed for 380 velocity, around 900fps. The next gen altor load will use the same bullet since it's working and use a little bit less of a much faster powder, nitro100nf to get between 380acp velocity and 1,100fps to make it even quieter.