Former US defense official: We know UFOs are real

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bandit99, Jun 2, 2019.


  1. SAUCERS. Project 1794: The Air Force had a supersonic flying saucer
    It turns out that UFOs exist, they just may not be piloted by little green men. In the 1950s, the military went forward with Project 1794, a mission to construct a flying saucer that could top out at speeds "between Mach 3 and Mach 4, a ceiling of over 100,000 ft. and a maximum range with allowances of about 1,000 nautical miles." Did the government accomplish their goal?
    Unfortunately, costs got in the way of the project coming to fruition. Costs of the prototype were calculated to be around $3,168,000, which is about a cool $26 mil thanks to inflation. By 1960, the dream of an American UFO was put on ice.

    (Put on ice? I don't think so. Official version vs. Black OPS)
     
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  2. TWO Air Force vets have testified to Pentagon's UFO office about seeing mysterious objects TURN OFF ten nuclear warheads and blast test missiles out of the sky at US bases
    • Two Air Force veterans told DailyMail.com they have testified about their experiences with UFOs interfering with US nuclear missiles
    • Former officer Robert Salas told of his encounter with an orange flying disc that turned off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana in 1967
    • Dr. Robert Jacobs has briefed the office on footage he shot for the Air Force in 1964 that allegedly caught a flying saucer shooting a test missile out of the sky
    The Pentagon's UFO office is investigating historic reports of mysterious objects interfering with key nuclear missile silos.

    Two Air Force veterans told DailyMail.com they have testified to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) this month about their experiences of UFOs interfering with US nuclear missiles.

    One email shows AARO staff contacted former US Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to gather information about his chilling encounter with an orange flying disc that inexplicably turned off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana in 1967.
    And another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, has briefed AARO on a 35mm film he shot for the Air Force in 1964 that allegedly caught a flying saucer shooting a test missile out of the sky.

    The accounts offer a rare glimpse into the often classified work of the government unit tasked with probing unidentified phenomena in the air, sea and space.

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    Two Air Force veterans told DailyMail.com they have testified about their experiences of UFOs interfering with US nuclear missiles. Some of the encounters were at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana (pictured)

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    US Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas (pictured left, and as a young man, right) told of his encounter with an orange flying disc that turned off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana in 1967

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    Dr. Robert Jacobs, another former Air Force officer, briefed the office on his footage that allegedly caught a flying saucer shooting a test missile out of the sky

    Air Force vets testified to witnessing UFOs TURN OFF nuclear warheads | Daily Mail Online
     
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  3. dustintml

    dustintml Monkey

    All of these aliens are going to be cast into the lake of fire along with those who take the mark of the beast.
     
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  4. Billy Graham on life on other planets:
    The Bible does not say whether or not there is life like ours elsewhere in the universe. There may be– but we simply don’t know. The Bible’s focus is on us and our relationship with God. If there is life elsewhere in the universe, it is there because God created it, and it is just as dependent on Him as we are for its existence.
     
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  5. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Of course UFOs are real.

    Where the hell did you think hippies/stoners/dopers came from?
     
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  6. dustintml

    dustintml Monkey

    I don’t deny that there is life on other planets, but God has chosen humanity as the vessel through He can be expressed to the entirety of His creation. Jesus Christ who was fully human and fully God is how God expresses Himself; so there may well be life on other planets but they are not meant to rule over humanity; humanity is meant to rule over them; that is if we have become partakes of the divine nature. I don’t care how advanced technologically something is; it holds no weight against the Spirit of God indwelling human being who has been united with Him.
     
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  7. dustintml

    dustintml Monkey

    These people that are trying to rule the world want to do so without God. They want to do it on their own through their knowledge and technology, but without Jesus Christ. The devil wants be like God; but He cannot because He has already been condemned, so he uses his knowledge to create false light; and His angels; who have also been condemned use their knowledge to create false light; they want to ascend to heaven and be like God; so through knowledge and technology they are trying to rule the world; and those whose minds have been darkened because they received not the love of the truth; which is Jesus Christ; are deluded into thinking that these angels are advanced aliens from outer space and that if they serve them they will also get to rule with them, but they will be judged by Jesus Christ and cast into the lake of fire.
     
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  8. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @dustintml '...so there may well be life on other planets but they are not meant to rule over humanity; humanity is meant to rule over them..."

    And, if they are intelligent life forms which by these UFO sightings seem to indicate since the technology is far more advanced then ours, what then? Or, what if it's the other way around - meaning - they are closer to God than the majority of us Earthlings as they appear much more peaceful since we're the ones shooting missiles, "Blessed be the Peacemakers.." So, then we get ruled? What if they are representatives of God, his angels? And, your statement makes sense over earthly things as God gave earth to man to rule but...what of things not of this earth? The bible says nothing about far off worlds, dimensions or where ever they come from as far as I know.

    All I am saying here is there are a hell'va lot of questions with no obvious answers and the old answer of "God will find a way" is one that riles me, makes me grind my teeth, as he gave us intelligence to find solutions and hands to work those solutions. I've always considered that to be a BS answer, a lazy man's answer, from one that wants to show how pious the speaker is but in truth, it's meaningless. I am more in line to believe, "God helps those that help themselves."

    I don't understand what you are talking about here? Are you saying that these advanced aliens are worshiped as angels by some organization(s) here on earth? I definitely lost the bubble here...but I think you did also. Please slow down on the preaching, leave that for church and stay on topic for the sake of clarity. The topic is about UFO sightings and how they are now considered to be real. Sorry, but you lost me.
     
  9. dustintml

    dustintml Monkey

    No I am saying that what they actually are is fallen angels or Watchers. They have telepathic abilities part in due to their nature and part in due to their technology. I am saying that many people are deceived into thinking that they are aliens; they were originally tasked with watching over the earth from the heavenly realm, but they sinned against God by coming down to earth and having sex with human women and they taught men the secrets of heaven; things that men were striving to learn. They still have the ability to go certain places in the heavenly realm because of their technology, but they have been forever cast out from the throne of God where they once were. And all down through the ages they have been attempting to rule the world through their technology. They are bound by certain rules though as they cannot override God; so they enter into agreements with governments in an attempt to rule the world. They know they cannot defeat God’s true servants so they continue to watch to see what God is going to do through His true Sons and then they react. They cannot override Jesus Christ, but they continue to attempt to. Their technology may indeed have uses for mankind, but they are attempting to use it to thwart the purposes of God. Mankind has the ability to develop these telepathic abilities but they have to be awakened to God.
     
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  10. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Y'all have put a lot more thought into this than I have.
     
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  11. dustintml

    dustintml Monkey



    This guys knows what is going on.
     
  12. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I must admit that I found this video extremely interesting. It is obvious that Greer believes every word of what he is saying, and, frankly, I believe he is telling the truth, at least, as he sees it. So, on that alone one must at least raise the question, "Is there something going on?" He definitely believes there is... I think what is compelling is the amount of detail Greer puts forward - meaning - he is either a fantastic liar and storyteller and knows that his story cannot and will not be collaborated (due to security classifications, high-level personnel, etc.) or he is telling the truth. So, what is to be believed? It's a fascinating story and if true... well, I am not sure what that means.

    I thought Greer was just a UFO guy but this is much more, definitely adds an unexpected twist. I do know that when the intelligence world wants to discredit or confuse or misdirect attention on anything they will throw out numerous different stories, different versions, crazier the better, like whacko UFO things, until one doesn't know what to believe and you're a whacko to believe any part of it so one doesn't believe any of it which is exactly what they want.

    Anyway, fascinating story... Actually, this could explain the state of chaos, politically and socially in the world today. Chaos is a very handy tool when you want control. They touched upon this at 59 minutes, killing Epstein as an example; yet, I cannot feel there is more to the story...nevertheless, fascinating story.

    EDIT: BTW the first hour has the good stuff...
     
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  13. dustintml

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  14. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Bah! Sorry, I ain't buying this. Basically, what you are saying is the UFO sightings are demons... Yet, you have nothing to even base this assumption upon. I am not denying there is real evil in the world, demons in the world but see absolutely nothing to tie them to these sightings. Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine...and that's okay.
     
  15. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Satan will send a strong delusion insomuch that even the elect might be tempted.
    There are many distractions in the world that challenge our relationship with God and our faith with human reasoning.
    As fascinating as it is to ponder the mysteries of science the knowledge the world has to offer is not eternal but temporal.
    Adam failed, seeking the tree of knowledge rather than trusting God for his source of knowledge = rebellion = sin.
    No redemption was available Notice Adam did not repent his actions and for that he was prevented from reentering the garden and having access to the tree of knowledge.
    The illusion of power of some knowledge prevents many from seeking God for His direction, even knowledge of the scriptures men are corrupted neglecting the tutelage of the Holy Spirit only Jesus can provide.
    In eternity they that lived under the Lordship of Jesus will enjoy the tree of knowledge and the tree of life.
    For now, I will trust God to teach me what I need to know should the time come to face the unknown.
     
  16. Was This Couple Abducted By Aliens?
    The Betty and Barney Hill Abduction is one of the strangest UFO sightings to come out of the 20th century, and it’s the first widely reported abduction case in the United States. It’s believed that this case set off a rash of sightings, which are seen by skeptics as copycat reports. However, UFOlogists believe that the Hills were simply brave enough to be the first to come forward with their story.
    On the night of September 19, 1961, the
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  19. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    UFOs are real? OK, here is my main concern, nutshelled by the Beeb

    If we made contact with aliens, how would religions react? - BBC Future

    "In 2014, Nasa awarded $1.1M to the Center for Theological Inquiry, an ecumenical research institute in New Jersey, to study “the societal implications of astrobiology”.

    Some were enraged. The Freedom From Religion Foundation, which promotes the division between Church and state, asked Nasa to revoke the grant, and threatened to sue if Nasa didn’t comply. While the FFR stated that their concern was the commingling of government and religious organizations, they also made it clear that they thought the grant was a waste of money. “Science should not concern itself with how its progress will impact faith-based beliefs.”

    The FFR’s argument might well be undermined, however, when the day comes that humanity has to respond to the discovery of aliens. Such a discovery would raise a series of questions that would exceed the bounds of science. For example, when we ask, “What is life?” are we asking a scientific question or a theological one? Questions about life’s origins and its future are complicated, and must be explored holistically, across disciplines. And that includes the way we respond to the discovery of aliens.

    This is not just an idle fantasy: many scientists would now argue that the detection of extraterrestrial life is more a question of when, not if."

    Early FedGov studies indicated reaction to real UFO could cause a collapse of US society (maybe int he 50s) - to people going catatonic over the Big Reveal.
     
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