Collapse of Civilization - What to expect

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Dunerunner, Dec 5, 2022.


  1. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    If the sneaux hits next week the whole state will collapse next week fosho!
     
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  2. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Out here on the beach we have sand and more sand. No rocks, no stones, just sand. Selling anything but sand is big business. I pass two growing dirt and stone sellers on my way to town.
     
  3. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Its below freezing here and will be for several days Apparently the chronic unprepared are freezing in their unlit homes with no backup plans, Why does this happen?
    Are these pretty much the same people who file their taxes at the last minute or the same ones you see driving like bats otta hell every morning getting to work?
     
  4. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Denial! They fail because they have been conditioned to fail, thinking everything is fine and nothing will happen to them.
     
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  5. Navyair

    Navyair Monkey++


    Take a look at this web lik explaination and you'll see where we are. Could we turn it back? I'm a BIG believer in American exceptionalism, but the fact that we no longer control education or even churchs (mostly) are big factors agaist us.

    Best wishes to all in 2023

    How Civilizations Rise and Fall in Eight Stages - Community in Mission
     
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  6. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    We are at step 7. Kyrie Eleison.
     
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  7. STGThndr

    STGThndr Monkey+

    Every man or family for themselves. It will take awhile for things to shake out, both on family and global levels. "Dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost"..
     
  8. STGThndr

    STGThndr Monkey+

    $500 on "Celtic Witches In Kilts", Alex..
    Were I much younger I'd have probably gone with "Bearkillers"...
     
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  9. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Wife has been ill, so I have been going by the grocery almost daily after work. 90% of the people in there are the same ones as the day before, and I have started noticing their purchases. It looks like they buy about $10 worth on average, just a few things for a meal it seems. As a rule, we only go grocery shopping once a month or so, so it has me wondering how many of the masses shop daily for their food, and what will they do should the store be closed for a day, a week, or forever. What will these folks do and how will they act when there is no store bought food available? I would guess the average age of these folks I have been taking note of is around 50, and probably split 60-40 women to men. Old enough to be divorced or something and living alone, and the usual size of their purchases also leads me to believe they are shopping for one. This has also made me start watching people at the gas station, buying only $10 worth of fuel at a time. 3 gallons. You know they have to do this daily. I would guess 90% of the folks at the pumps get no more than $20 at a time. This has made me re-think things a bit, like how a large percentage will die off in 30 days, not 6 months. There also aren't gonna be vehicles sitting around with much fuel in them, and the "I'll just take what I need when the time comes" crowd is going to die off pretty soon as well.

    I think modern living and just in time re-stocking has lulled the populace into believing that their basic needs will always be met. The only time I ever see a large percentage stocking up is when a hurricane is imminent. Then they buy water, bread and milk. They will empty the shelves of those items while walking right by the non-perishable things. I have, honest to goodness, seen cases of water out with the trash after a hurricane scare. These people are going to be the big threat after SHTF. It will be hard to tell the elderly neighbor that no, we won't give them any of our food. I think maybe holding on to what we have may be the hardest thing.
     
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  10. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    @Tempstar
    Glad you posted this , & YUP

    "after SHTF" = during
    Sloth
     
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  11. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    When the wife lived in France, she noted that most picked up what was needed for the day at the local (corner) market.
    She wrote it off to very small apartments and no fridge or a very small one..
     
  12. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Readily available day to day needs become something city folk depend on. I'm sure that when the Covid lock-downs hit all that changed. My thought is that in many areas of Europe, the small apartment, small refrigerator and one or two burner cooktop became stylish due to the daily availability of food in the open marketplace.
     
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  13. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    Mrs Crafty and I are moving towards smaller, but more frequent grocery visits. We have much of the staples, meat, etc covered and just go for fresh bread, fruits and vegetables.
     
  14. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey+++

    And a well supplied and prepared friend and mentor of mine stated that he found the idea of a dictator preferable to anarchy
     
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  15. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    That is often the justification of supporters of tyranny...that is until they too are deemed enemies of the dictator they once supported or acquiesced to. It has to be remembered that many dictators have risen to power on the back of the anarchy that they themselves had created.
     
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  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    There is also less food wastage of short shelf life products...and it also adds to the grey man cover of blending in with the un or under prepared punters in the community.
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Eggs being a dollar a piece.
     
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  18. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Milk has been over $2 a half gallon for the generic stuff and I am buying it in gallons for $3 and change. The Name brand creamery gallons are $5 and up. Eggs are in meager supply with only half the offerings there were a month ago. The energy crunch is affecting everything across the board. Clothes, goods, services, rent, everything.
     
  19. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Today milk $2.97/gallon for the generic stuff, eggs $5.95/doz for grade a large eggs. Funny the organic free range local eggs in the store were cheaper at $5.75/doz. Butter $4.99/lb for store brand, 80/20 hamburger $18.99/5lbs, bread store brand $2.89/ 24oz loaf. regular gas $3.19/gallon.
     
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  20. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    One of the monkeys here was chatting about eggs ect .
    It costs me 5.50 to 6.00 /12 just for the feed ,oyster shell and my labour is free.
    My Duck eggs are 6.50 feed cost .
    Local store L White Eggs
    egg.
     
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