Gas Ranges, Ovens and furnaces.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kamp Krap, Jan 7, 2023.


  1. Kamp Krap

    Kamp Krap Monkey++

    If you are in the market for one or are planning to be you might want to pull the trigger on that purchase sooner rather than later. Increasingly under fire as potential health hazards, gas stoves could be banned in 2023, top federal official says: ‘It’s a real possibility.’

    The war on Natgas and LP has been heating up for quite a while with cities banning gas appliances in new constructions. The Feds have picked it up and are pushing harder for Nationwide bans of the manufacture and sales of gas appliances. No secret that the Green Weenies want to herd everyone to all electric lives...... ON THE GRID. At this point in history it is sure feeling like they are coming for your everything! Except for what they think you need and should have. Not sure how grids that already are falling short are going to be able to accommodate all of the new pressure the Green Weenies want to put on them.
     
  2. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Yet in the Northeast a minor storm concentrated in my area to a 50 by 100 mile area and prepared for days lead to a 24 hour loss of electricity and thousands out or hurricanes with millions out. Had gas stove, wood heat, and a genset for backup. No problem, but widespread outages and in a week no fuel for genset and most neighbors have no backups of anything. You will bow down to the masters when they feed you in the approved shelters.
     
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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    So, no Natural Gas or LPG for the peasants and no idea what they are going to generate the increased demand for electricity with! Much less modernizing the grid by moving it underground to protect the transmission lines. Typical "Horse before the Cart" mentality.
     
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I have read (on the internet, so take with a pound of salt) that California is going to soon ban the manufacture and sale of gasoline fueled vehicles. Obviously more "social engineering" to force the populace into electric vehicles. Of course, they haven't got nearly the infrastructure in place to make that work, but when did such minor details ever stop them?
    I am thinking in the not-too-distant future, horse ranchers are going to be making bank, and wagon-making will again become an industry.
     
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  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I'm sure all the automobile manufacturers in California are thrilled with that prospect, not to mention all the automotive repair shops, gas station owners, etc...
     
  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    It's all about the optics. The are going to get the most federal dollars for the green initiatives of all the states being first.
    they give zero shits about consequences nor the people.
    I predict even more folks leaving that state and more homeless moving to the state because of their initiatives.
     
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  7. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    We have always had electric stoves but the wife has been after me to get her a gas stove, if the EPS gestapo plans on banning gas stoves I think I will look into getting her a gas stove sooner then later. Killerfornia has been taking the lead on banning everything except solar --I wonder how LA has been doing with the recent storms --can't generate solar when it's raining.
     
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    In California you can have a car, but don't worry about getting gasoline, charging it or having maintenance done.
     
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  9. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

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  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    They are either completely stupid or they realize with no natural gas power plants there's no solar and wind and it's time to shitcan the renewable bs and go back to coal and nuclear. Maybe both.
     
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  11. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    That would be what France and Germany are doing right now. Nuclear and Coal.
     
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  12. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I'm counting on them coming to the conclusion that if you want to go green, you need nuclear.
    I'm holding uranium stocks. Maybe i'm early to the party but there is no way to reduce carbon in the grid without it.
    No way solar and wind is going to supply all energy needs without huge investments in battery storage and huge land requirements for solar and wind farms.
     
  13. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

  14. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I’m counting on them not giving two shits about the grid. There will be enough for the chosen to have energy, and we aren’t the chosen. The best long term choice for the upper midwest is wood for heat.
     
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  15. Kamp Krap

    Kamp Krap Monkey++

    Slowly knocking wood stoves out with EPA emissions regulations that make the stoves more and more expensive with the cost of compliance.

    The EPA will be happy to explain it all to you in muddy water read between the lines terms LOL.
    Understanding the Residential Wood Heater Rules | US EPA
     
  16. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

  17. Kamp Krap

    Kamp Krap Monkey++

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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Well they can't make up laws by abusing "chevron deference" any more after West Virginia vs EPA.
    So unless a law gets passed this is going exactly nowhere.
    It's probably something they can pull off in Europe or Canada where it appears people have no rights.
     
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  20. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Maw maw's around here will be up in arms about their gas stove, Probably march on the capital with their black iron pots?
     
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