Requiring Serial Numbers on FireArms are ruled UnConstitutional

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by BTPost, Nov 13, 2022.


  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    A Federal District Court Judge in West Virginia ruled that requiring Serial Numbers on FireArms is a Violation of the 2nd Amendment, and UnConstitutional… He wrote that there is “No history or requirement for requiring Serial Numbers on FireArms before the Gun Control Act of 1968”, and no similar or analogous requirement at the time the 2nd Amendment, was adopted…. The Federal Prosecutor said he is weighing his options… However in light of the SCOTU Bruen Precident it is unlikely that an appeal to the Circuit Court of Appeals would be successful…
     
  2. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Yup, there be a whole bunch of Infringin that is gonna be uninfringed right quick and in a hurry like! "Text as informed by Relevant History and Tradition" of 1791 is REAL, and it's gonna seriously hurt the anti's pipe dreams! In five years time, I bet we see the whole thing blown off it's hinges, and practically ZERO gun control or gun laws nation wide!!! It's gonna be a brave new world, so hang on and enjoy the ride!
    Another @nd Judge has also found the whole "Ghost Gun" thing unconstitutnal, as not only are their no analogs preventing you and I from making arms, there is a very rich and vibrant history of gun making by private individuals dating back to well before 1791!


    Take that anti gun suckers! Law after Law being struck down!
     
  3. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    One day the people will remember that they are in charge. It may be at the end but it will happen.
     
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  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I'm not going to hold my breath.
    Tyrants can run though a lot of cannon fodder before they relinquish power.
     
  6. Seepalaces

    Seepalaces Monkey+++

    Right? I was just thanking the Lord these idiots didn't win the house, because all they need is an amendment. They need an amendment to defend abortion until the kid is two years old (or until and if they join the GOP, because womyn...which apparently don't exist...) and they need an amendment to get rid of freedom of speech...errr... I mean to outlaw hate speech and they need an amendment to get rid of the second amendment. Tyrants be tyrannical.
     
  7. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    And, relentless.
     
  8. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Can't wait to hear the wails here is Oregon when 114 gets overturned as well as the impending AWB.
     
  9. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    I hope so brother, for all of y'alls sake.
     
  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    At least that danged dusty-dry wrinkled zombie queen is booted from the Speaker position! Time to send her to the nackers.
     
  11. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    My pre-68 H&R .22 rifle is legal again...until the next appeal..
     
  12. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

     
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  13. Seepalaces

    Seepalaces Monkey+++

    Wow the hutzpah of that cop. I'm typically pro cop but it seems like that cop thinks he can just do whatever he likes.
     
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  14. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++

    Thanks for the update.
    This is a good start, however….
    District court rulings generally don’t establish precedent. It would need to be upheld by the fed appellate court which for West Virginia is the 4th Circuit. If they were to uphold the decision then that would establish precedent for Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia. To gain precedent for the rest of the country, SCOTUS would need to rule or most of the other appellate courts would need to issue comparable rulings.
    I wouldn’t be surprised to see the DOJ take the L on this case, not appeal in order to not establish precedent beyond this one district that only covers half of WV.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2022
  15. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    NEWS FLASH….. The Federal Prosecutor for this suit has decided to Appeal this Ruling to the 4Th Circuit Court of Appeals… which makes this Case, one for the 2nd Amendment to file Amicus Briefs, and which will make the ruling by the Court have Precedent… If we can win this at this Court, it will set a BIG Pinch in the Gun Grabbers Playbook…
     
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  16. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Well by golly that makes serial numbers on suppressors un constitutional as well or I would at least think so? But what do I know.
     
  17. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Not necessarily @Gator 45/70 ... Suppressors come under the NFA of 1934 as Amended, and therefore are classed as "Not Generally in the Common Ownership" like Rifles, Pistols and Shotguns are... Also there is NO Analogous Item that was in existence when the Second Amendment was Passed into Statutory Law... So it would take a Court or Legislative change to deSerialize them, more than Likely..
     
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  18. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    So what you're saying is that we all need to go out and buy suppressors for everyone we know for Christmas? ;)
     
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