Are we Headed for Nuclear War?

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Minuteman, Sep 29, 2022.


  1. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    I have NO problem with President Trump heading up negotiations. Probably the only one who could hash one out at this point. The really, really big problem is the powers in Washington would never give him one single iota of support to try. And even if he could garner just a smidgen of support the global cabal would smack it down out of the gate. No, I'm afraid this is going to have to play out with just the megalomaniacs at the table. Us dirt people might as well just stake out a cave somewhere because we will need one sooner or later........oh yeah.....FJB.
     
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  2. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    China EXPOSED Running SECRET POLICE In US, Canada, And Europe As Fear Of World War Three Escalates

     
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  3. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    If the .mil was involved in this, I would have hoped they would have been much more competent in covering their tracks. But then with the woke mil we have today.....
     
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  4. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I hope you moved out of Cali.

    But you are right, I don't think it's going to take much .. the globe is already on pins and needles.
     
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  5. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    China and Russian war ships are off the coast of Alaska. Biden is walking in circles. Congress is about to send another $13billion to Ukraine taken from your children at gun point. The US has declared a proxy war with Russia while Wallstreet takes down all of the global currencies. The US dollar is falling just not as fast as every other fiat. People are rioting and killing world wide and the police focus on arresting people for their online posts or political views. The leaders of our glorious countries care only about hiding away as much wealth as possible before the SHTF. Yeah I'm pretty sure Russia has nukes that leave the areas usable after 30 days so why wouldn't they nuke the crap out of the world. The elite have bunkers everywhere.

    It seems like the question is not whether we are heading to nuclear war but rather, what should we be doing right now to prepare for that.
     
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  6. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    sorry but Biden and the US didn't have anything to do with sabotaging that pipeline - obvious as hell Russia did it to get dissension started with the Euros - and - the Euros were stupid enough to walk right into it ....

    the pipeline was sabotaged - but not significantly to stop the flow - recent expansions & flow changes quikly amended the majority of the problem >>> if the US wanted the Russian supply stopped they would have taken out the actual hardware - the pumps involved would have taken YEARS to replace under current conditions - eazy enough to fracture miles of pipeline vs a few sections ...

    watch what happens - Ukraine will get blackmailed into a Russian favorable truce and territory lost treaty >>> Putin wins again
     
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  7. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Hmm. Obvious as hell. When Russia controls the pipelines and can shut them off anytime they want. They make billions of dollars off the gas going through them. I don't see how they gain anything by sabotaging their own pipelines. Doesn't make sense.
    What is obvious and very coincidental is that American war ships were practicing with drones just days before the sabotage. The American ship, used for special warfare missions, ie navy seals, was less than 20 miles away, with their transponder turned off, when the explosions occurred. It's also obvious that a new pipeline, paid for in large part by the US, from Poland to Denmark was opened on the same day as the two from Russia were sabotaged.
    I could believe several different scenarios for who was responsible, but the Russians did it is the least likely and the least believable.
    Like they say in the crime shows "Follow the money" who gains and who loses. Russia and Germany are the big losers. Poland, Denmark, Ukraine and the US are the ones who will profit.
     
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  8. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    1. I do not believe nuclear weapons is something either side would use; however, in wartime, things never go as planned. Plus, there are other nuclear capable countries, some which are borderline insane, that could and would light the fuse. Having said this, EMP strikes would be viable. Putin's rants were more in line with the use of tactical nukes. I don't believe any country has any sort of Neutron bomb. I believe that was proven to be a myth long ago but who really knows.... besides, if they want to kill us off then I believe it will be a virus, some nasty unknown bug that will burn itself out in 30+ days...

    2. The USA blowing up the pipe is a possibly however certainly doesn't make any sense because we would be the first suspect and if we did it, we certainly would have done a much better job. Nah, I don't think it was us... I imagine it will never come out but there are many countries that would love to see the USA and Russia go at each other tooth and nail. China, Iran, etc. Hell, even the Ukraine or defense contractors. I do find it strange that Russia isn't making a bigger stink over it. Furthermore, if I understand correctly, Europe stopped or was scheduled to stop buying Russian oil/gas so...Maybe even the EU is involved. All pure speculation...

    3. As far as prepping for a nuclear attack.... No, if it goes that far, then I don't want any piece of it. If the idiots blow it up then I don't want to be around afterwards.

    EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, I would bet, even give odds, that it was Russia that it blew up. Sounds crazy, right? Sounds impossible, right? Well, not if you want to chip away at the world alliance against Russia right now. You point the finger at the US, the leader, and make everyone suspect them. Russia doesn't care about the loss in revenues, doesn't like it of course, but the gain far surpasses the loss. Yeah, the more I think of it the more I would bet and give odds it was Russia. Do you REALLY believe that the USA would have their ships anywhere near the explosion where they could be identified? Ridiculous. However, Russia could easily know when we had ships there, they track us as we track them, then perform a clandestine insertion... Now, they can at least place doubt in the mind of the world that the US is forcing Russia to do all these things like invade the Ukraine, mobilizes their country for war and resort to tactical nukes. Yep, that's my bet, it was Russia.
     
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  9. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    The US had or was developing Neutron bombs back in the 1970s, for use against massive USSR-Warsaw Pact tank formations in Europe. They killed people and didn't destroy Europe in the process. The Russians declared it a "capitalist weapon". President (call me Jimmy) Carter canceled the Neutron bomb or traded it away to appease the Russians.
     
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  10. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    LOL There is a 99.999% chance the US is behind the sabotage but your blind faith in a corrupt government gives me warm fuzzy feeling all over and makes me want to wait up for Santa on Christmas.
     
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  11. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Well, the good news is that conservative commentators' heads are exploding because Lizzo played James Maddison's crystal flute....in the conservative scheme of things that seems to rank as more important than the prospect of global thermo-nuclear war because Vlad is losing his $hit, and losing his special military operation.



    Conservatives Are Melting Down Because Lizzo Played James Madison’s Crystal Flute – Rolling Stone
     
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  12. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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  13. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I believe that even during the conflict Germany and Russia have a contract that is still in force today to supply russian gas to germany via Nordstream 1.

    They were under contract up until the pipe line developed a leak. Now they can call a Force Majure and say, sorry man but due to circumstances beyond our control, we can no longer supply you with any gas. Good luck.

    My money is on the russians blowing up the line making it look like the US did it.

    While it is plausible that the US is behind it as we did have naval ops in the Baltic in August (may and june as well).

    We may never know the actual truth. But it doesn't matter as long as the spinmeisters can convince their own populations that the evil ones did it.

    Nukes? Not sure, that's a genie once let out of the bottle ain't going back in.
    And we probably won't have much time to discuss why it's wrong to go tactical.
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  14. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Carter was another master of appeasement. I rather think he and Neville Chamberlain would have been buddies.
     
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  15. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    The question is not if we will start a nuclear war, the question is whether anyone will start a nuclear war. N Korea has nukes now, we do, Israel, Russia, France, China, India, Japan, S Korea, Taiwan, Pakistan, UK, S Africa, that guy down the road from here...

    I'm sure some of these countries feel that they can win a nuclear war and some that just don't care what the outcome is.
     
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  16. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

     
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  17. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    What I don't understand about this, read it in Fox News also, is I thought any country that was in a conflict of any sort couldn't even apply for membership...but what do I know. In truth, I thought that was the major stumbling stone to them obtaining membership that and threats from Russia of course.
     
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  18. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Personally, I have no problem with it being played by someone of skill and talent; however, I DO have a problem with it being played on some tour of a musician for no apparent reason, no matter how renown the musician. I feel the American public would have been better serve if it was played to commemorate a special event or holiday like Independence Day or etc. I think the Librarian of Congress got out of her lane and I will bet that Congress will ensure this does not happen again - and it shouldn't!

    Furthermore, the author and his ridiculous comment of "...it’s also pretty damn hilarious that they’re writing about a novelty wind instrument like it’s the Declaration of Independence" seems like not only did he fail 3rd grade history but seems to think the instrument is something one buys at the local convenience store. Idiot.
     
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  19. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Maybe a special recital to commemorate slave owning Founding Fathers who sexually abused and exploited the female slaves they owned...just a thought...am sure that it could be tastefully and respectfully done. :rolleyes:

    Edit: Nice piece of tone policing on your part though.
     
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  20. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Or better yet, hunting Aborigines for sport in the Outback! The notes of the flute echoing the call of the hunt. Yes, that's my vote!
     
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