Is this even legal?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bandit99, Aug 24, 2022.


  1. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Biden is going to just wave his pen and take $300 Billion dollars' worth of Student Loan debt and give it to the taxpayers to pay instead. WTH? Is this crap even legal? Can even a President simply wave his hand and POOF! It's gone with no accountability, no say by our government or our elected representatives. I say again, WTH?

    Furthermore, this will kill Democratic chances for upcoming election as its extremely unpopular and even the folks who will benefit from it will tell you it's wrong - yet - he doesn't care. Why? Just what the hell is going on?
     
  2. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    No, the Constitution states Spending power that Congress has the power to spend money and the Executive branch has the right to spend the money authorized under Congressional oversight. Been ignored for so long and bypassed in so many ways, that short answer, he doesn't have right to do so, but will get away with it.
     
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  3. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Buying votes ,,, thats the bottom line .
     
  4. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Where was the conservative outrage when DJT was buying votes with the Border Wall white elephant, via defunding the US military to pay for some 2/3 of the construction costs???
     
  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    The military budget goes for the protection of our country ,, the military protects our country ,,,, the wall also helps protect our country . It was money well spent ,,,, and it did not cause any loss to our military . Unlike our braindead resident Bedumb leaving 80 billion dollars of arms, armaments , ammo , to our enemy .
     
  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I'm going to figure out how to get it.
    Just like the stimmy.
    I'm picking up what they are throwing down.
    I've got two pissed kids that either paid as they went or just recently paid off student loans.
    But the youngest is only half way through college and ... that 10k will pay off 2 years worth of loans taken out.

    And yes, it is buying votes. Just like cracking open the SPR and releasing oil until it dries up after the midterm elections in november. Just buying time and votes as you go.

    SSDD my friends. Both parties pander to their base.

    EDIT: And those that received the Federal Pell grants get their loan forgiveness bumped to 20k. Hell of a deal. Just don't make over 125k per year and uncle sugar will shower you with some Benjamins.
     
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  7. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    There are going to be a lot of pissed-off folks, like my nephew and his wife, that have paid-off their student loan debt and are now having to pay again...for someone else! They went to state colleges and got degrees/careers that pay good money (he is an engineer, and she is a nurse), unlike those saps that went to Ivy League schools and got degrees in gender or ethnic studies, modern dance, poetry, or literature, and want someone to pay-off their considerable debts!
     
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  8. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    If you went to Harvard or Yale and owe $100,000 in student loans, then $10,000 is an insult!
     
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  9. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    If someone went to harvard or yale, and they didn't have a job making more than 125k ... then they made some bad choices.

    The 10k (or up to 20k) is basically to shore up support in the lower / middle class of voters behind the democratic ticket. Is it fair? Oh hell no. is it going to piss off a lot of responsible folks .. yeah, but the number of folks that will be eligible for this is greater than those it does nothing for.

    it's a cheap money for vote scheme, best part is .. they are going to pay for it with tax payer money. It's not like it's coming out of their pocket.

    Win-win for the party that pushes this through. No different that corp bailouts, helicopter money, industry specific tax breaks or government spending project. They all do it.

    Just have to use the tax code to play their game so you don't have to pay the taxes that fund these programs is the only way out of it.
     
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  10. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Everything has a Catch, you watch and see, a few years from now, those debts will come back to haunt everyone in the form of raised taxes, and with the 88K new IRS agents all packing Shiny brand spanking new full auto FN rifles, they WILL get their money back plus interest compounded weekly!
     
  11. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I do not believe he can legally do it. I think it is just another Biden scam to allow him to say, "See! I tried to do what I said I would do and eliminate student load debt but they wouldn't let me." I just cannot understand how this is even possible! I never took a federal student loan or even a grant. I was forced to join the military to get the education bennies because I ran out of money to finish school and I did finish without any federal assistance. This is total BS!
     
  12. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Well ,, Mr Bandit ,,, the difference between you and these kids wanting these handouts is you were raised to earn what you got ,,, these twits of today have been taught they're owed everything ,,, it's part of this socialist equity crap .
     
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  13. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Much of what Trump spent does fall under the Constitution and its requirement that money be spent for the common good. A border wall to maintain the security of the immigration status and keep out illegal aliens or spending on the armed forces to secure our nation does that. One can argue that paying for welfare, giving a select class of voters 10 to 20 thousand, or thousands in child care payments will at least "influence" their selections of who they vote for in November. Much of what they are promising is not here now, but good propaganda and something that may actually happen in the future. Drug cost limitations come to mind. Democrats are very much like French kings in late 1700's. Live well, spend what you want, and let the next generation, people and royalty sort it out. Chaos and removing heads seems to have followed. Don't know what follows Brandon, but I doubt that the planned socialist world will solve all our problems and lead us to the promised land. I don't think that we have even entered the wilderness yet and haven't run across any manna bushes lately so it may well be a lot less forgiving wilderness.
     
  14. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Nothing our gov and federal agencies do is legal/lawful anymore. They have gone rogue. They are attacking the people. This is about the same as blowing up a neighborhood. The war has officially begun and by this Nov there will be blows thrown. Now I support the side of peace but I will also not back down from a fight and make no mistake, we are there.
     
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  15. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Biden is now finishing building that wall. You support liars? This goes to show that walls can keep people out but they also can be used to keep people in. Biden finishing the wall is only being done so that Americans can't escape what they have coming.

     
  16. natshare

    natshare Monkey+++

    Not to mention, JoBama is continuing to build the evil wall. Where's your outrage at that, @chelloveck ?? :rolleyes:

    Even JoBama questioned the legality of blessing off student loan debt. Schumer says he's okay to do that, but I wouldn't trust that idjit to give a legitimate legal opinion, if my life depended on it! Ol' Chuckie will say ANYTHING, to buy a vote!

    Speaking of which, JoBama ain't losing too many votes on this one. Or, at least, he'll equal out the votes lost, with the votes he just won....er, bought! He's saying that the student loans will have to start getting repaid in January....but I wouldn't be surprised, if, around the end of October, he decided to kick that can down the road a bit further. SOLELY to buy more votes! :mad:
     
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  17. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    The bastards create loop holes and dig and search for reasons why they are allowed to do something but the people never think to question IF they should do it. People need to get a whole lot angrier. The $80 billion in weapons that Biden GAVE to our enemies should have been enough to get him impeached... and strung up. The public should have revolted. Instead they raided Trumps home and not hardly a word. Where are the people? They don't seem to do anything until it is too late.
     
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  18. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    This is the bread and circuses part of empire collapse.
     
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  19. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    I guess the question is do you let the corrupt government collapse? If they fall they take a lot of us with them but they also get away with stealing the countries wealth. But also China and Russia would walk in easily with out our military at the gates. Is this the plan? We either defend the corrupt murderous us gov or we get invaded by commies?
     
  20. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    They been indoctrinated to sit back and watch I guess... that and maybe they just don't understand what's really happening... maybe watch something like this...

    is a daily dairy of the activities of the NAZI's...

    Watch Second War Diary - The War Day by Day | Prime Video
     
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