I got to play with an STG 45, the ultra rare battle rifle series that was only just showing up when the war ended, sadly, nobody thought it was all that, little did they know, it was/still is one of the best designs ever! You will likely never even see one, let alone be able to shoot one, and if you do, you better buy a lotto ticket!
It's definitely a cool piece of history and I'm grateful to the SOT who let me fire it in exchange for keeping his mags topped off during sales presentations. My thumb was a hurtin but my mouth was a smilin. I wouldn't turn to it for combat or even frequent shooting. One thing my friend mentioned was that many parts were relatively fragile and not replaceable. That IMO makes them museum pieces to admire and only shoot during special occasions and very carefully at that. The MP5 was my favorite to shoot. Perfectly balanced with no muzzle rise and little recoil due to the 9mm ammo. Even though they are also quite expensive I would consider them as proper for SHTF. Still way out of my league expense wise and frankly for me semi auto is more effective than full auto. I'm an ice cold acquire target, aim, fire, move on to the next one guy, so I choose a cartridge likely for a one shot kill instead.
I don't know about military use of an AR 10. I would assume the AR is civilian version same as the AR 15. I have my one won't do without rifle that is an SR 25. Stoner Rifle. It is Eugene Stoners original design that the military made him scale down to fire the .556/.223. Something he was very much against. It was, don't know if it still is, but it was the standard issue for Navy Seal snipers. It is the same rifle, or rifles, that the three Seal snipers used to take out the Somali pirates holding the freighter captain hostage. At that time, again not sure now, but at that time it was the only semi automatic sniper rifle in military service of any military. It is the most accurate rifle I have ever shot.
Says it was used by several countries Users Edit Australia: Australian Army,[6] Royal Australian Air Force Airfield Defence Guards[7] and Police Tactical Groups.[8][9] Israel: IDF special forces.[10] Philippines: Philippine National Police Special Action Force,[11] Philippine Army Light Reaction Regiment[12][better source needed] Poland: GROM.[13] South Korea: Republic of Korea Navy Special Warfare Flotilla[14][15] Thailand: Royal Thai Army.[16] Turkey: Gendarmerie General Command[17][page needed] United States: United States Military[18] SR-25 - Wikipedia
The MP5 series is my favorite SMG. I've not yet had a chance to fire the MP7 but hope to in the near future. The UZI is right up there for me as well. They are simple, run well and are reasonably accurate. Many feel they are a bit heavy for their size but that has never bothered me personally. 3M, should you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods you are invited to go through as many mags as you'd like in my MP5
The Stoner designed Armalite AR 10 was the predecessor to the Armalite AR 15. The also Stoner designed SR 25 was based on the AR 10 as well and can interchange 60% of it's parts with an AR 15. From that point the AR 10 gets... interesting. There are at least three patterns so just because it's an AR 10 doesn't mean any given AR 10 part will fit or work. Mine is an AR308 and uses the short frame pattern and weighs only slightly more than an M4, while some are closer to the weight of a FAL. AR 10 land is truly a free for all though most follow the DPMS pattern. All, except for the original AR 10 take SR 25 magazines.
I got to shoot the full auto suppressed MP5 at a place called Machine Gun Kelly's in Vegas. It is so soft and smooth you don't realize what is happening on the other end. Like squeezing butter out of a tube.
To liberals an AR-10 is 5 less than an AR-15 so that makes it less dangerous! Also when you put wood furniture on any AR platform weapon and make it 50% less scary!
I once owned a CETME rifle that was the grandson of the StG44, and the Daddy to the G-3. It was a Centry Arms demiled weapon from Spain and fired 7.62x51. It was all that I could handle firing semi-auto, and loud, too!
I loved my CETME, called it "my Spanish Lady"! When she spoke, people listened. Had the patented "Century Muzzle Blast Enhancer" on the muzzle. Once had an idiot shooting his "Eargeschplitzen LoudenBoomer" bolt rifle next to me, really irritating me severely. I picked up M'Lady and proceeded to rapidfire all twenty rounds from a fresh magazine. He packed and left the range. Sure, I was a hit of an AH, but his blasts HURT!
When WW2 ended the German arms designers realized that they had no future in Germany. Some went to the USA, England, USSR, Argentina, some found other work, and some went to Spain...the only Fascist country to survive the war. General Franco was the Putin of his day and Spain was sanctioned by almost every major nation. He created an organization called CETME to develop new technologies and copy existing ones. The German arms designers working for CETME improved upon the StG44 and by the time that Spain was incorporated into NATO it had been upgraded to 7.62x51. When Germany was allowed to rearm in the 1960s the German arms designers returned to Germany and created the G-3, which uses many of the same parts as the CETME. The CETME rifle was exported to many nations in Africa and South America. It was a good cheap military surplus rifle chambered in 7.62x51...about 1/2 the price of a M1-A1.
Spanish 7.62X51 was not NATO spec. My CETME liked Spanish Santa Barbara, Aussie and Austrian Hirtenberger Ammo. Only the Hirtenberger was NATO spec.
These is a difference between NATO Spec, and .308 Winchester as well, as some of the other iterations of that cartridge…
Still setting on a case of the Hirtenberger. Saving it for a rainy day I suppose. My Hebrew Hammer really loves the stuff.
That's a great name. I have a couple now that I've built up off of kits and receiver flats from RTG. Work perfect. Currently setting on a dozen kits and flats.
