Ivermectin?

Discussion in 'Survival Medicine' started by Gator 45/70, Mar 11, 2021.


  1. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I as well as others have been enjoying the quality of Ivermectin for quite some time now, lies won't change my mind.
     
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  2. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    20210827_105459. So FYI here is the package insert from the Noromectin from the vet supply. I keep seeing these warnings and news stories about the danger of using the animal version. Which BTW only feature amd talk about the horse paste. Which I noted was not recommended due to the difficulty in regulating dosage.

    So this product is 1% Ivermectin, 40% glycerol formal and the rest propylene glycol. It is "formulated to deliver the recommended dose level of 200 mg of Ivermectin/kilogram of body weight when administered at 1 Ml(=1cc)/ 50 kg (110 lbs) ."
    For humans it is basically the same dosage, 1cc per 100 lbs of body weight.
    So other than pure ivermectin what are the other two compounds and are they harmful to humans. No. Both are used in human and animal products.

    "Glycerol formal is a good inert solvent for a wide range of organic chemicals. It produced no toxic effects or macroscopic pathology when 1500 mg./kg. was administered intraperitoneally to rats, or 1000 mg./kg. to mice or guinea pigs, or 4000 mg./kg. orally to rats, and at high doses the only specific effect found was narcosis. It was correspondingly innocuous subcutaneously or dermally, and was almost non-irritant to the eye surface. There was no detectable effect on the toxicity of parathion. Glycerol formal appears to be a useful addition to the range of solvents suitable for use in toxicity tests."


    "Propylene glycol is non-toxic when ingested, even in reasonably large amounts.
    Unlike its dangerous and frequently lethal cousin, ethylene glycol, PG is easily metabolized by the liver into normal products of the citric acid metabolic cycle, which are completely nontoxic to the body. Approximately 45 percent of any ingested PG is excreted directly from the body and never even comes into contact with the liver. The elimination half-life for propylene glycol is approximately four hours, and there is no bioaccumulation (buildup in the body over time). A few rare incidents have occurred where a person ingested a large quantity of propylene glycol and suffered some liver and neurological effects as a result, but these were short-lived and subsided once the material was metabolized and excreted."

    So when you hear these reports of how unsafe it is to use a product made for animals you can know it is not true, not in this case, and is probably being intentionally suppressed by the media at the request of big pharma.
    I heard a radio talk show host yesterday talking about this and he said the most asinine comment I think I have ever heard. He said that the animal Ivermectin was formulated for the animal physiology and the human version was made for the human physiology. OMG, who could be so utterly clueless. We are all mammals. We have very basic physiologies. Pigs heart valves are transplanted into humans. The penicillin you get at the vet supply and inject into your cow is the exact same penicillin that the doctor injects into your butt. Ivermectin is Ivermectin, it doesn't know if its entering a cow, pig or farmer John. Sheesh!!
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2021
  3. Dark Wolf

    Dark Wolf Monkey

    I don't have any trouble with the horse paste dispenser in regards to doseage. Not saying others don't, but it is pretty straight forward.

    DW
     
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  4. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    idiots
    what a forum
    deal with this many times with critters all but horse , horse folks are dumb !!!
    Move a flock over , deworm
     
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  5. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I know a few ranchers that use the paste. Just what I read that it was harder to dose. But even an over dose is not harmful. Most symptoms resolve in hours. By what I've read about it you would have to take a massive overdose and continually for it to ever come close to being fatal.
     
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  6. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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  8. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    You know we are in deep excrement when Alex Jones sounds pretty reasonable...
     
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  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day….
     
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  10. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I read that there have been people reporting to poison control but none have come up with actual symptoms.
     
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  11. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    WHO executives could face death penalty in India.

    "But now in India the WHO contact person, Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, risks the death penalty after being sued by the Indian Bar Association (IBA) – which is not the association of Indian bars but of Indian lawyers – which sued him for his “misleading statements against the use of Ivermectin that did not allow its use causing hundreds of thousands of deaths“. In the complaint, Indian lawyers ask the country’s government to “urgently examine the situation and in particular the seriousness of the issues involved, which concern not only the citizens of India but also the security, survival and well-being of all humanity“. In particular, the lawyers intend to hit the “prohibition of care“Imposed by WHO”for some substances such as Ivermectin whose effectiveness is amply demonstrated by dozens and dozens of scientific studies and opinions of prestigious doctors who work daily in the field against the pandemic“. There is also one of the denounced Indian lawyers Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the world leader of the WHO."
     
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  12. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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  13. Minuteman

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  14. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    So the FDA and the WHO didn't even follow their own rules analyzing the findings, that's no surprize.
     
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  15. TXKajun

    TXKajun Monkey+++

    Tractor Supply here has a big sign saying how dangerous it is for humans to take the horse paste. They were also out of horse paste.
     
  16. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

  17. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I keep Ivermectin in my EDC and share it's potential with any one that will listen.
    Sadly only about 2% listen.
    Not my problem.
     
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  18. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    I have another 6 months supply coming from the compounding pharmacy.
     
  19. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    So just this week I have had two people I know personally come down with the rona. One was a friend of my daughters. A 42 yr old nurse. She said when she first came down with it she felt like she was dying. Body aches a, high temp and she couldn't breathe. She took Zinc, an antibiotic, prednisone I think, and she had some of the Noromectin cattle and swine version of Ivermectin. She said after taking the first dose that within 4 hours her breathing was back to normal and her fever had broke. By the next day and the second dose she was over it and feeling fine.
    The other was a good friend who has severe asthma. He came down with it and his oxy sat level was down to 95 and still dropping. They hospitalize you if it drops to 92. He was running high fever and body aches. The doc gave him a scrip for mectin but all the pharmacies are out. And the vet stores are out of the animal version. I had some of the pills from a scrip the doc had given me last month. I was keeping them in case I came down with it. So I gave him mine. That was yesterday. He texted this morning and said he had his first good nights sleep in 5 days. His fever broke and his oxy is back up to 97%. He'll take the second dose today and final tomorrow.
    This stuff works folks. I dont care if it's the pills from the pharmacy or the liquid from the farm supply. It's the same stuff and it works wonders. There is absolutely no need to take an experimental treatment that even according to the CDC's own website is the deadliest "vaccine" in history. 11,000 deaths in the US and similar numbers around the world, with over 400,000 adverse effects, many permanent disabilities, paralysis, heart attacks, strokes. And a CDC whistleblower claims the deaths are actually over 40,000. This perfectly mirrors the animal tests. 5% of the lab rats died within hours of getting the injection. Another 80% died within 2 to 6 months from the accumulation of spike proteins in the organs and severe autoimmune disease. 2 to 6 months in a lab rats life is equal to 2 to 5 years in a human. Many doctors and scientists around the world are predicting that we will see the same thing in the human lab rats that have taken the shot. Nobel laureates, PHD's, a lot of smart people are saying that as much as 80% of the people who take the shot will be dead in 2 to 5 years. Coroners and surgeons are just now starting to report on people they have opened up who took the jab and they are saying they have never seen anything like it before. They are finding these spike proteins in every organ of the body. The organs are riddled with them and they are eating holes in the organs. It is the same thing as what we call mad cow disease. The main organ affected is the brain but also the heart and lungs. And now they are finding that the shots lower your T-cell production and make you much more susceptible to cancer.
    And they admit now that the shots dont protect you, they rapidly lose thier effectiveness, and now they say people will need a booster every 5 months. For the rest of your life. Because you have destroyed your immune system.
    All because they told us to be afraid of a flu. A flu that is easily treatable.
    After 25 people died from the swine flu vaccine in the 70's they shut it down. But they are pushing this full steam ahead. Why? The conspiracy theorists who are saying this is a bioweapon deliberately released to reduce world population are not looking so crazy.
     
  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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