Retired Military Voices A Warning

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by johnbb, May 12, 2021.


  1. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    "More than 120 retired American military officials have signed an open letter warning that America has veered left under Democratic control and that the nation's survival is on the line.

    "Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration, our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic. The survival of our Nation and its cherished freedoms, liberty, and historic values are at stake,"

    Bidumb like many wannabe dictators has purged the military and appointed leftist brass in charge
     
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  2. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Well, you get what you pay for.
     
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  3. wideym

    wideym Monkey+++

    Please link to the letter you are referencing as I cannot seem to find the actual letter, only opinions and talking points from different articles.

    This does seem to be an unusual action that a group of retired general officers would openly criticize the current administration. You will always find a few retired officers shilling for the highest bidder at news channels and corporations, but rarely will they come together on a common cause without some self interest.

    Generals don't become generals without first becoming politicians. There are more general officers on active duty today than there were during the entire second world war when we had over a million men serving.
     
  4. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Doesn't really mean anything especially with no teeth to back it!
     
  5. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    True enough, but the politicking that military officers do is strictly limited to military matters, or they will be retired forthwith and then be able to speak for themselves publicly on (you guessed it) ordinary politics while absorbing military retirement salaries.

    OK they signed a letter, but it isn't obvious who the addressee is. Not that it matters much, dot mil is as subject of hairbrained conspiracies as any other of us planet bound humanoids.
     
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  6. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Open Letter from Retired Generals and Admirals

    Our Nation is in deep peril. We are in a fight for our survival as a Constitutional Republic like no other time since our founding in 1776. The conflict is between supporters of Socialism and Marxism vs. supporters of Constitutional freedom and liberty.

    During the 2020 election an “Open Letter from Senior Military Leaders” was signed by 317 retired Generals and Admirals and, it said the 2020 election could be the most important election since our country was founded. “With the Democrat Party welcoming Socialists and Marxists, our historic way of life is at stake.” Unfortunately, that statement’s truth was quickly revealed, beginning with the election process itself.

    Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the “will of the people” our Constitutional Republic is lost. Election integrity demands insuring there is one legal vote cast and counted per citizen. Legal votes are identified by State Legislature’s approved controls using government IDs, verified signatures, etc. Today, many are calling such commonsense controls “racist” in an attempt to avoid having fair and honest elections. Using racial terms to suppress proof of eligibility is itself a tyrannical intimidation tactic. Additionally, the “Rule of Law” must be enforced in our election processes to ensure integrity. The FBI and Supreme Court must act swiftly when election irregularities are surfaced and not ignore them as was done in 2020. Finally, H.R.1 & S.1, (if passed), would destroy election fairness and allow Democrats to forever remain in power violating our Constitution and ending our Representative Republic.

    Aside from the election, the Current Administration has launched a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights in a dictatorial manner, bypassing the Congress, with more than 50 Executive Orders quickly signed, many reversing the previous Administration’s effective policies and regulations. Moreover, population control actions such as excessive lockdowns, school and business closures, and most alarming, censorship of written and verbal expression are all direct assaults on our fundamental Rights. We must support and hold accountable politicians who will act to counter Socialism, Marxism and Progressivism, support our Constitutional Republic, and insist on fiscally responsible governing while focusing on all Americans, especially the middle class, not special interest or extremist groups which are used to divide us into warring factions.

    Additional National Security Issues and Actions:

    • Open borders jeopardize national security by increasing human trafficking, drug cartels, terrorists entry, health/CV19 dangers, and humanitarian crises. Illegals are flooding our Country bringing high economic costs, crime, lowering wages, and illegal voting in some states. We must reestablish border controls and continue building the wall while supporting our dedicated border control personnel. Sovereign nations must have controlled borders.

    • China is the greatest external threat to America. Establishing cooperative relations with the Chinese Communist Party emboldens them to continue progress toward world domination, militarily, economically, politically and technologically. We must impose more sanctions and restrictions to impede their world domination goal and protect America’s interests.

    • The free flow of information is critical to the security of our Republic, as illustrated by freedom of speech and the press being in the 1st Amendment of our Constitution. Censoring speech and expression, distorting speech, spreading disinformation by government officials, private entities, and the media is a method to suppress the free flow of information, a tyrannical technique used in closed societies. We must counter this on all fronts beginning with removing Section 230 protection from big tech.

    • Re-engaging in the flawed Iran Nuclear Deal would result in Iran acquiring nuclear weapons along with the means to deliver them, thereby upsetting Mideast peace initiatives and aiding a terrorist nation whose slogans and goals include “death to America” and “death to Israel” . We must resist the new China/Iran agreement and not support the Iran Nuclear Deal. In addition, continue with the Mideast peace initiatives, the “Abraham Accords,” and support for Israel.

    • Stopping the Keystone Pipeline eliminates our recently established energy independence and causes us to be energy dependent on nations not friendly to us, while eliminating valuable US jobs. We must open the Keystone Pipeline and regain our energy independence for national security and economic reasons.

    • Using the U.S. military as political pawns with thousands of troops deployed around the U.S. Capitol Building, patrolling fences guarding against a non-existent threat, along with forcing Politically Correct policies like the divisive critical race theory into the military at the expense of the War Fighting Mission, seriously degrades readiness to fight and win our Nation’s wars, creating a major national security issue. We must support our Military and Vets; focus on war fighting, eliminate the corrosive infusion of Political Correctness into our military which damages morale and war fighting cohesion.

    • The “Rule of Law” is fundamental to our Republic and security. Anarchy as seen in certain cities cannot be tolerated. We must support our law enforcement personnel and insist that DAs, our courts, and the DOJ enforce the law equally, fairly, and consistently toward all.

    • The mental and physical condition of the Commander in Chief cannot be ignored. He must be able to quickly make accurate national security decisions involving life and limb anywhere, day or night. Recent Democrat leadership’s inquiries about nuclear code procedures sends a dangerous national security signal to nuclear armed adversaries, raising the question about who is in charge. We must always have an unquestionable chain of command.

      Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration, our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic. The survival of our Nation and its cherished freedoms, liberty, and historic values are at stake.
    We urge all citizens to get involved now at the local, state and/or national level to elect political representatives who will act to Save America, our Constitutional Republic, and hold those currently in office accountable. The “will of the people” must be heard and followed.

    Signed by:

    RADM Ernest B. Acklin, USCG, ret. MG Joseph T. Anderson, USMC, ret. RADM Philip Anselmo, USN, ret. MG Joseph Arbuckle, USA, ret.

    BG John Arick, USMC, ret.
    RADM Jon W. Bayless, Jr. USN, ret. RDML James Best, USN, ret.
    BG Charles Bishop, USAF, ret.
    BG William A. Bloomer, USMC, ret.
    BG Donald Bolduc, USA, ret.
    LTG William G. Boykin, USA, ret.
    MG Edward R. Bracken, USAF, ret.
    MG Patrick H. Brady, MOH, USA, ret. VADM Edward S. Briggs, USN, ret. LTG Richard “Tex’ Brown III USAF, ret. BG Frank Bruno, USAF, ret.
    VADM Toney M. Bucchi, USN, ret. RADM John T. Byrd, USN, ret.
    BG Jimmy Cash, USAF, ret.
    LTG Dennis D. Cavin, USA, ret.
    LTG James E. Chambers, USAF, ret.
    MG Carroll D. Childers, USA, ret.
    BG Clifton C. “Tip” Clark, USAF, ret. VADM Ed Clexton, USN, ret.
    MG Jay Closner, USAF, ret
    MG Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, ret. MG Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, ret.
    BG Phillip Drew, USAF, ret.
    MG Neil L. Eddins, USAF, ret.

    RADM Ernest Elliot, USN, ret.
    BG Jerome V. Foust, USA, ret.
    BG Jimmy E. Fowler, USA, ret. RADM J. Cameron Fraser, USN, ret. MG John T. Furlow, USA, ret.

    MG Timothy F. Ghormley, USMC, ret.
    MG Francis C. Gideon, USAF, ret.
    MG Lee V. Greer, USAF, ret.
    RDML Michael R. Groothousen, Sr., USN, ret. BG John Grueser, USAF, ret.

    MG Ken Hagemann, USAF, ret. BG Norman Ham, USAF, ret.

    VADM William Hancock, USN, ret. LTG Henry J. Hatch, USA, ret.
    BG James M. Hesson, USA, ret. MG Bill Hobgood, USA, ret.

    BG Stanislaus J. Hoey, USA, ret.
    MG Bob Hollingsworth, USMC, ret.
    MG Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, ret.
    MG Clinton V. Horn, USAF, ret.
    LTG Joseph E. Hurd, USAF, ret.
    VADM Paul Ilg, USN, ret.
    MG T. Irby, USA, ret.
    LTG Ronald Iverson, USAF, ret.
    RADM (L) Grady L. Jackson
    MG William K. James, USAF, ret.
    LTG James H. Johnson, Jr. USA, ret. ADM. Jerome L. Johnson, USN, ret.
    BG Charles Jones, USAF, ret.
    BG Robert R. Jordan, USA, ret.
    BG Jack H. Kotter, USA, ret.
    MG Anthony R. Kropp, USA, ret.
    RADM Chuck Kubic, USN, ret.
    BG Jerry L. Laws, USA, ret.
    BG Douglas E. Lee, USA, ret.
    MG Vernon B. Lewis, USA, ret.
    MG Thomas G. Lightner, USA, ret.
    MG James E. Livingston, USMC, ret. MOH MG John D. Logeman, USAF, ret.
    MG Jarvis Lynch, USMC, ret.
    LTG Fred McCorkle, USMC, ret.
    MG Don McGregor, USAF, ret.
    LTG Thomas McInerney, USAF, ret. RADM John H. McKinley, USN, ret.
    BG Michael P. McRaney, USAF, ret.
    BG Ronald S. Mangum, USA, ret.
    BG James M. Mead, USMC, ret.
    BG Joe Mensching, USAF, ret.
    RADM W. F. Merlin, USCG, ret.
    RADM (L) Mark Milliken, USN, ret.
    MG John F. Miller, USAF, ret.
    RADM Ralph M. Mitchell, Jr. USN, ret. MG Paul Mock, USA. ret.
    BG Daniel I. Montgomery, USA, ret., RADM John A. Moriarty, USN, ret., RADM David R. Morris, USN, ret.
    RADM Bill Newman, USN, ret.
    BG Joe Oder, USA, ret.
    MG O’Mara, USAF, ret.
    MG Joe S. Owens, USA, ret.
    VADM Jimmy Pappas, USN, ret.

    LTG Garry L. Parks, USMC, ret.
    RADM Russ Penniman, RADM, USN, ret.
    RADM Leonard F. Picotte, ret.
    VADM John Poindexter, USN, ret.
    RADM Ronald Polant, USCG, ret.
    MG Greg Power, USAF, ret.
    RDM Brian Prindle, USN, ret.
    RADM J.J. Quinn, USN, ret.
    LTG Clifford H. Rees, Jr. USAF, ret.
    RADM Norman T. Saunders, USCG, ret.
    MG Richard V. Secord, USAF, ret.
    RADM William R. Schmidt, USN, ret.
    LTG Hubert Smith, USA, ret.
    MG James N. Stewart, USAF, ret.
    RADM Thomas Stone, USN., ret.
    BG Joseph S. Stringham, USA, ret.
    MG Michael Sullivan, USMC, ret.
    RADM (U) Jeremy Taylor, USN, ret.
    LTG David Teal, USAF, ret.
    VADM Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, ret.
    RADM Robert P. Tiernan, USN, ret.
    LTG Garry Trexler, USAF, ret.
    BG James T. Turlington, M.D., USAF, ret.
    BG Richard J. Valente, USA ret.
    MG Paul Vallely, USA, ret.
    MG Russell L. Violett, USAF, ret.
    BG George H. Walker, Jr. USAR Corp of Engineers, ret. MG Kenneth Weir, USMCR, ret.
    BG William O. Welch, USAF, ret.
    MG John M. White, USAF, ret.
    MG Geoffrey P. Wiedeman, JR. USAF, ret.
    MG Richard O. Wightman, Jr., USA, ret.
    RADM Denny Wisely, USN, ret.
    LTG John Woodward, ret.
     
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I believe this is more important than one would think at first glance. WHY?

    Because these are our leaders! And, they are making a statement by tossing the BS flag. Yes, prior/past leaders but leaders nevertheless and they have been the head of large organizations, lead through difficult times in the past - and - they completely understand the politics at those levels and yet here they are putting their name on a list - for better or for worse.

    And, who is to say will will not need these men and women again if things continue in the same tempo and manner. I frankly see Civil War in our future as I see no other way out of it except maybe a Convention of States (which could indeed backfire)...or, my greatest fear, Americans will bend the knee, freely accepting their new chains without even contesting it. “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Sam Adams I've always loved this quote by Sam Adams and hope to God it does not still ring true...but I fear it does, probably much more.
     
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  8. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Were, and maybe will be again. Who was that letter addressed to, and what makes us think the addressee will to other than recycle it?
     
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    This is my major question, to whom was this "Open" letter written and sent to?
    If sent to the white house it will get tossed Congress, SCOTUS, et all, we might have a chance of some of it getting traction!

    I'm not holding my breath that any of this will amount to anything, but,.......
     
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  10. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

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  11. wideym

    wideym Monkey+++

    I thank johnbb for posting the letter and I have to say it contained the serious concerns of many Americans, not just the right. One name I found glaringly missing was Gen. Keane, a Fox news "military analyst".

    I don't know if he refused to add his name or if he wasn't even asked to do so, but either way his absence is telling about the man.
    I served under him while stationed at Ft.Campbell and found him to be an SOB of the highest magnitude. I know you don't have to love your chain of command, but we absolutely hated the man. He would stab his mother in the back to become the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Luckily for the military he never got that position, although he did become the Vice Chief of Staff for the Army. He was and I believe still is a political snake who will bite anyone if offered a better deal elsewhere.
     
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  12. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

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  13. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

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  14. BlueDuck

    BlueDuck Monkey+++

    I like it, but where were they a year ago when something could have been done about it? Seems the horse is out of the barn.
     
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  15. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    A year ago ,, they were just racist, xenophobe's ,,,,
    Today ,,,, they have the proof ,, and everyone has seen it.
     
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  16. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    No, I understand. As you and others stated 'it has no teeth' but it's not meant to. It is expressing opinion from some of the highest leaders which in truth also expresses the opinion of the masses. You could (and they do) ignore the masses opinion but if your highest leaders are unhappy and plebs/serfs are unhappy - well - you had better start taking notice. Plus, what it also does is let us know that not all of our leaders are political hacks and some still love the country and side with its people and its Constitution. More organizations need to do this. The more that come forward the better because most folks think they are standing alone or just with a few of their neighbors. More of our leaders need to come out of the closet and add their voice. In this regard, this letter is significant.

    As far as France going into Civil War - well - they better do something and quick. It would be nice to see them drag out the old guillotine and lop a few heads and put the fear of God in the elites...to especially ours.
     
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  17. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    France has a problem created by their government (which seems to be the case every where) they have let in so many radical Muslims and they have failed to assimilate. There are sections the police will not go into---- sound familiar --we also better do something quick
     
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  18. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    In France a quarter of a million active duty troops wrote and signed an open letter to the government saying that their Marxist Communist policies are pushing the country aggressively towards a civil war. The government decided that THAT was what they wanted so they started targeting those 250,000 soldiers personally and we are now seeing court cases against them. There is now a second letter and it seems that civil war in France is inevitable. It is everywhere. Israel has civil war and most other countries are close.

    This is a world wide Communist attack. What do they have that would make them feel safe attacking the entire world at once? The only thing that I can think of is robot armies. Even if they did manage to kill a large population of people with starvation, vaccines, and BLM riots they would still have a very large number of people to control so they NEED civil war. The people must start killing themselves for their plans to work. The police are not going to get in line with gulags and concentration camps and killing their people they swore to protect. Attack the police and defund them so that people beg for protection and you can send in the SS and Brown Shirts with no resistance. Then after all of that dust settles they send in the robot army to clean up? I miss the days when these types of stories were conspiracy theory.

    ‘Civil war is brewing in France and you know it’: French military launches another salvo at Macron with new open letter
    French soldiers accuse government of trying to ‘silence’ warnings of civil war
    Israeli city of Lod descends into ‘civil war’ as violence escalates


    Video: Chinese Army deploying robots armed with machine guns and night vision | Daily Mail Online
     
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