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Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Steverino, Jan 9, 2021.


  1. Steverino

    Steverino #LEAVETHEGOP

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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Well, if ever there was a right time to start a new 'Free Speech' social media alternative, it definitely is now...

    EDIT: Oh! I also believe that "Sam Adams was right..."
     
  3. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Just saw this on Parler
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  4. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Parler won't last much longer unless they get their own servers. Right now they're hosted by Amazon servers and Amazon is being pushed hard to kick them off. Gab, however, has it's own servers.

    A lot of FB people went to MeWe, which I have zero experience with but they seem happy there.

    Personally I think we should all go back to MySpace. :D
     
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  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    MeWe is anything goes. Some groups have mods with a god complex other let anything fly.
    Y'all get the good with the bad with mewe on the anything goes groups.
     
  6. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Not really on topic but kinda in the same vein.
     
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  7. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    7 minutes into it,, and I still don't know what the hell he's saying. He might as well be speaking in tongues ,,,
     
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  8. Steverino

    Steverino #LEAVETHEGOP

    Gab is also working on a cell phone too....
     
  9. Welp, you won the internet for the day. I can go back to bed.

     
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  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Parler has already said they are getting their own servers, but they'll be down maybe a week. Don't count them out.
    The democommies seem absolutely determined to get the Second Civil War started. They forget, We The People are armed, peeved off and know exactly where the libtards work and live. Karma is coming, bigtime. This war on free speech is just the beginning.
     
  11. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    I've been reading of Amazon being pressured to remove Parler from it's cloud hosting service AIW. Parler need it's own resources that it and nobody else controls. I expect if they don't move from AIW at some point woke AIW employees will tamper and cause outages. If you control the system covering your tracks is trivial. Did it once as part of a security review while under observation. Even with all changes being known it was impossible to find them later.

    Jack Dorsey celebrating the deplatforming of Parler by Apple, which is his biggest competition. What is even worse is that part of his hubris is that signal is now the number 1 app used by AntiFa for encrypted command and control communications during riots. Telegraph is also heavily used for this purpose to prevent infiltration.
    upload_2021-1-10_7-13-27.

    I don't use my cell for this type of communications, but even without an app IMO it's easy enough to access via web browser. Not as slick, but still works.
     
  12. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Back in the late 90s, early 2000 I developed and operated a number of "adult" websites. Same time the .gov was squawking a lot about filth on the web and people running sites were getting arrested and all their stuff seized for operating their sites in US jurisdictions. They also started going after domestic hosting companies for hosting them in the first place. The first thing people started doing was moving to offshore servers or ones based in countries that did not have issues with such things. I moved my sites to Holland based servers and I remember there was some plan afoot involving an abandoned island in international waters that someone was trying to turn into a server farm free from any country's laws. Don't know what happened with that.

    A platform like Parler needs to be on their own servers, and preferably somewhere neutral, something they're realizing a little late. Last update I saw they said they'd need a week to relocate and rebuild.
     
  13. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    The CEO of Parler posted that they would be back up as soon as Tuesday..
     
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  14. Steverino

    Steverino #LEAVETHEGOP

    They turned the DC Rally into the Reichstag Fire... don't be surprised to see something resembling the Enabling Act... "in the ongoing effort to combat domestic terrorism"

    They will climb the tech tree until they can squelch all voices of dissent... All traffic will be censored... Going after the larger websites is the beginning...

    Parlor was easy, low-hanging fruit... In some sense, its a good thing that Parlor got caught not ready to immediately deal with being shut down ... now everyone knows the path of suppression the commies will take. The real problem is that all traffic eventually moves through the ISP/Carrier level.

    I expect them to try and legislate (maybe re-write Section 230) some form of "anti-hate speech" law that will give the FCC teeth to force ISP/Carrier's to block traffic...
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Pretty sad we have to go to Russian servers to get free speech.
     
  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Hey someone post when parlor is back up I'm going over there.
     
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  17. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    About Signal

    Signal was developed by Open Whisper Systems, a for-profit corporation run by “Moxie Marlinspike,” a tall, lanky cryptographer who has a head full of dreadlocks and likes to surf and sail his boat. Moxie was an old friend of Tor’s now-banished chief radical promotor Jacob Appelbaum, and he’s played a similar fake-radical game — although he’s never been able to match Jake’s raw talent and dedication to the art of the con. Still, Moxie wraps himself in air of danger and mystery and hassles reporters about not divulging any personal information, not even his age. He constantly talks up his fear of Big Brother and tells stories about his FBI file.

    So how big a threat is Moxie to the federal government?

    This big: After selling his encryption start-up to Twitter in 2011, Moxie began partnering with America’s soft-power regime change apparatus — including the State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (now called the U.S. Agency for Global Media) — on developing tech to fight Internet censorship abroad. That relationship led to his next venture: a suite of government-funded encrypted chat and voice mobile apps. Say hello to Signal.

    Yeah. A pipeline to Big Brother.

    and
    If you look at Signal’s website today, you’ll find all sorts of celebrity endorsements — Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras, and even Jack Dorsey. You’ll also find a “donate” button — which, by the way, you shouldn’t press because Signal has plenty of tech oligarch cash on hand these days. What you won’t find is an “about” section that explains Signal’s origin story — a story that involves several million dollars in seed and development capital from Radio Free Asia, a CIA spinoff whose history goes back to 1951 and involves all sorts of weird shit, including its association in the 1970s with the Moonies, the hardcore anti-communist Korean cult.

    Exactly how much cash Signal got from the U.S. government is hard to gauge, as Moxie and Open Whisper System have been opaque about the sources of Signal’s funding. But if you tally up the information that’s been publicly released by the Open Technology Fund, the Radio Free Asia conduit that funded Signal, we know that Moxie’s outfit received at least $3 million over the span of four years — from 2013 through 2016. That’s the minimum Signal got from the feds.
    (Signal is a government op)
     
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  18. Steverino

    Steverino #LEAVETHEGOP

    Thanks DTR... this is eyeopening...

    2012 - co-founded of Whisper Systems, launching TextSecure, and RedPhone, providing end-to-end encrypted SMS messaging and voice calling, respectively. Whisper Systems was acquired by Twitter 2011.

    2011 - Moxie Marlinspike became the director of product security at Twitter.

    2013 - Marlinspike launches Open Whisper Systems with $500,000 funding from OpenTechFund (OTF would invest $2.3M). Funding trail CIA>>RadioFreeEurope/Asia>OTF

    Taking the above and placing it in context with the following Jack Dorsey confession:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1349853804590579713


    .... one could come to the conclusion that Signal is nothing more than a reverse "honeypot"....
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2021
  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Ar15 dot Com got deplatformed, went down for a day.
     
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  20. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Yes, ZERO notice. Other gun forums very nervous. Looks like there is a market for politically blind web and other service hosting. Next level will be to attack those providers access to the Internet.
     
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