if you need a fire, your clothing/shelter suck.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by benine, Nov 17, 2020.


  1. benine

    benine On Hiatus Banned

    a Kochanski super shelter, with all the clothing the Alone people get to take with them, is easily good to 0F, and probably to -10F, without a fire, if you know to make a raised wooden bed and use dry debris as insulation. Debris can be dried out with hot rocks, under a tarp. You only need a few bushels of it, at most. If they'd size their 5 layers to let them wear all of it at once, with debris between each layer, They could handle being out in -20F all day, no problem. I wouldn't even need a sleeping bag.

    The lean to is 100 sq ft of the 12x12 tarp. That leaves 40 odd sq ft of reflective material Out of that, you use the big roll of duct tape to makea ponch, leggings, etc, in an hour. Stuff debris between your outermost clothing and the poncho-leggings and tie it around you. They give you a 20x20 tarp and a 10 x10 tarp that are not part of your 10 gear picks. So fold the 10x10 in half, stuff it with debris, fold it in half again and tie it around yourself and the poncho clothing and debris. Inside of a sealed shelter, that will suffice to -30F. Thats how you dont need to waste a sleeping bag, or 2 hours a day hauling/processing wood.

    Long before it's that cold, you'll have the 2 inches of snow that are all you need to make an igloo. Inside of a properly made igloo, you dont need a fire down to -40F. cause it raises the temps by 50F degrees, using just your trapped body-heat. It is THAT insulative, sealed, and reflective. When you'll be at risk of falling asleep, you poke a couple of 1/2" holes, on opposites sides of your igloo. In the tarp shelter, you pull a bit of tape loose on each side. During the day, you'll notice if it's getting hard to breathe, and you can open the vent holes. But normally, they should be kept sealed-off, with tape or snow.
     
  2. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Welcome to the board.

    Why not drop an intro post to let folks know who you are

    read the board for a while, maybe make a few comments.

    Then demonstrate your mad survival skillz

    Oh, wait. Never mind....
     
  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    On Hiatus
     
  4. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    WOW, Troll much! LOL

    Survival ain't a hobby, and you don't get to choose the "W's" of survival!
    The REAL trick is training and experience, and ATTITUDE!
    Most here KNOW that!
     
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  5. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    hehehe. You can kick the fire just so often before your boots light off and you get a hot foot.
     
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  6. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Something here just went right over teh top of my head... frequent flyer troll?
     
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  7. madmax

    madmax Far right. Bipolar. Veteran. Don't push me.

    Lol. He almost sucked me in.
     
  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Seems I have seen that one elsewhere, maybe a Monkey Groupie.
     
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I wondered bout this guy, hit it hard and fast with his "Facts" and his obtuse observations with out ever asking, only ever telling us how it is! Must be lonely up there in his head with all that superiority bouncing about, Bless his Heart!
     
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  10. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Well kinda figured that waz coming considering whom it is and everything....lol

    To bad considering how much fun that dude is to play with....and get hm twisted off and all...lol
     
  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I must not have been around here long enough to have made his acquaintances before now, Busting Trolls is a specialty of mine, and i'm kinda sad I didn't get to play around with my prey this time!
     
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  12. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Oh well,Most know whom he is,We have had a lot of fun with him in the past....''D''weed never learns...lol
     
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  13. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Dunno about the troll - came across like a 12 YO Know it all.
     
  14. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    I smell a gunkid....
     
  15. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Now THAT guy I have run across, was epic to say the least! What a ton of fun it was busting on that Beta Dude!
     
  16. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    You're nose is on target babydoll !
     
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  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Early release due to covid would be my guess
     
  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    A very good chance he'll be back, just taking a short vacation, busted under the CoC. Definetely NOT gunkid.
     
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  19. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Twin brother maybe?
     
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  20. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    What??? A super bug out mad attack wheelbarrow is not a good idea?
     
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