Dershowitz: ‘Biden Is Not the President Elect’

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  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said that Joe Biden is not the president elect but is entitled to describe himself as such.

    By Mimi Nguyen Ly
    November 17, 2020 Updated: November 17, 2020

    “The president elect doesn’t get named as president elect until at least he has 270 state certification of electors, or his opponent concedes. Neither of that has happened as of now,” the high-profile lawyer told NTD News.

    He added: “I think that he is entitled to describe himself as the president elect. At the moment he’s won 305 or so electoral votes and President Trump is entitled to dispute that. That’s freedom of speech. That’s politics. Neither is entitled as a matter of law or constitutionality to say that they are the president elect.”

    Dershowitz, who served on Trump’s legal team during the Senate impeachment trial earlier this year, said he believes the Trump legal team is seeking to have the election forced into the House of Representatives, by not letting Biden reach the 270 electoral college votes required to secure the presidency. Republicans have a 26-23-1 state delegation majority in the House of Representatives.

    One possible way the Trump campaign can legally get electors to not vote is that if the challenges in court haven’t been resolved, some state secretaries of state, many of whom are Republican, may refuse to certify the vote by mid-December, Dershowitz said.

    “That will be challenged in court. And that will be a mess, it would create a constitutional crisis of a kind we haven’t had before,” he said.


    He noted that Trump’s lawyers are counting on a constitutional provision that moves the election to the House of Representatives if there is no definitive winner in the Electoral College by mid-December.

    “I understand why the Trump legal team is trying to have the the election thrown into the House of Representatives. That’s their constitutional right. And I can’t condemn them for using every possible legal recourse. That’s what lawyers do.”

    “I think that the lawsuits in the end will not bring about a reversal of fortune for Donald Trump,” he later added. “I think that on January 20, Biden will be elected president and inaugurated as President of the United States, but I have no criticism of the Trump team for fighting and battling and trying everything they can legally, ethically, constitutionally politically, to try to preserve his presidency.”
     
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  2. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Dec 14 is the magic date. Before that it is supposition and BS by the press.
     
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  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    True.
    Press is trying to make news not report it.
     
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  4. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Yes. But sadly, owing to the execrable public schooling most folks receive these days (no civic classes) the average under 40 citizen cannot tell you anything about how the Govt is supposed to work - including the EC.

    For fun, I've asked several younger employees where I work if they have ever heard of Joe Stalin. No? How about a cat maned Mao? No? Pol Pot, guys Cambodian. I draw a complete blank from every one.

    Most say, "I don't follow foreign news".

    At that point I nod and say "Cool. Lotsa folks don't. Hey, thanks for your time." Take my coffee and head back to Cubeville.

    Everyone and a while, they ask - "Who's Joe"

    My answer seems to shock them. "Joe? He ran the old Soviet Union. A real Communist. Had about 20 million Russians murdered as enemies of the State. Nasty character. Been dead for a while."
     
  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    "Joe" was also FDR's buddy. FDR sent is team of ivy league advisors to meet with and learn from him. The result was the policies that extended the US depression far longer than the rest of the world and even led to armed conflicts within the US such as at the commune he tried to pilot in New Mexico. It also led to the nationalization (seizing) of hydro power.

    When Democrats talk about returning to their "FDR roots" remember this as well as court packing, rampant racism and concentration camps. There is a reason why Presidents were limited to two terms post FDR.
     
  6. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Don't forget, under Obummer, the "Press" and the rest of the Media were giving absolute power over the flow of information, literally, they could make shit up and feed it to the mass's They are owned by only 6 people, and all of them are Hard Core Democrat supporters! They basically hold to the power to tell us which "Truth" they wish!

    The Truth is What I Say it is! Literally told lies as truth!
     
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Steering the ship to the left is easy. Problem has always been the blasted wind of liberty every now and then. Gotta keep the ship on course somehow. Steer left, drop sail and pretend like we're still moving forward, that's the plan.
     
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  8. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Yesm, FDR was a right bastard all right. Almost as bad as the openly racist W Wilson/

    The End of U.S. Intervention in Mexico: Franklin Roosevelt and the Expropriation of American-Owned Agricultural Property (link to free download or ead online)

    and this
    Out of one side of his mouth, Roosevelt (FDR) criticized Hoover for raising taxes, overspending and putting too many “on the dole” (welfare), not too few. Roosevelt’s VP candidate John Nance Garner of Texas accused Hoover of “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
    The Democratic Platform of 1932 called for a 25% reduction in federal spending, a balanced budget, and less government interference in private enterprise. From the other side of his mouth, Roosevelt told the appropriate voters on the left that he’d do more to help people and he’d already done just that as governor of New York with work programs and direct relief.

    Wow, huh?
     
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  9. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    It makes you wonder if any of the news machines or these morons in silicone valley know anything about Trump. I mean they are asking the guy who wrote
    Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges Into Success

    by
    Donald J. Trump
    to give up and to concede. Really? Yeah that is why Americans voted for him. America NEEDS fighters. We want our country and prosperity back and its not too late.

    Does anyone remember what we lost? This country was founded on the 2% tax revolution called the Boston Tea Party. This country was founded on no taxes and it prospered. 2% was too high. Biden wants 60%+ taxes. More than 50% is SLAVERY by definition and idiots go on complaining about being white is racist. WTF! In 1940 less than 5% of Americans paid any income tax at all. There are only 3 lawful taxes as outlined in the Constitution. Import, export, and Americans working abroad. By 1945 and because of FDR everyone was taxed using the theory of Robin Hood stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. A movie decided our lives. All the taxes were shifted to the poor who always suffer most and then piled on for good measure to keep them down.

    1940 is not that long ago. Less than 100 years to steal the wealth of an entire country by deliberate attacks from the banks and wealthy. Are you pissed, because I am. I want our money back.

    Now we can start to see where the attacks are coming from. The corrupt news has made it clearer. Tech giants, news monopolies, corrupt politicians, the 1% club, and bankers saw us as a carcass which they could dine on long before we were dead. They corrupted the schools and education to make our children docile cows ready for milking. I don't know about you but I am pissed. Lets wake the sleeping giant and show them what we are really made of. It might surprise you.

     
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  10. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    Prez Trump Tweeted yesterday >>>> FULLY documented electronic "dump" of Biden ballots in WI at 3:30AM the morning after Election Day >>> just under 200,000 alllll Biden ballots

    Trump just won WI >>> how does SCOTUS disagree that all American's Civil Rights weren't violated?

    GA is going the same route >>> uber obvious fraud ballots - newly released sworn testimony from 20 year veteran election ballot "counter" - 100,000s of "pristine" Biden ballots never seen before in 20 years - ballots never touched by hand or came thru local voting process .....
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2020
  11. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Blood or Hair dye?
     
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  12. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    shoe polish?
     
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  13. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Nope, Wipe on Tanning solution the kind that runs!
     
  14. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Or Make up to stop the shine from his bald head from blinding the folks at home.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
  15. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    What does that have to do with the OP?
     
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