Selling ammo, where to start.

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by oil pan 4, Oct 4, 2020.


  1. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    You may be able to trade primers locally with like minded people?
     
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  2. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    During one of the shortages when a brick of 22lr was selling for $100+, I pulled out 12 bricks to sell. Put them up at $80/ brick and they sold very quickly.

    I was laid off for 6 months at that point and was able to make a mortgage payment. It took quite awhile to replenish them. This go around, I'm keeping what I have. Too much uncertainty right now.
     
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  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    All I'm certain of is I don't want 20 year old 22LR going into teotwawki.
    22LR is very important to me, have multiple suppressed 22LR guns I'm not selling a large portion of my 22lr by any means.
    I'll bring most of it back as new ammo eventually and pocket the difference.
     
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  4. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Brick of 22lr already up over 6 cents a round with 4 days to go.
    It will probably hit $80 for sure, maybe up near $100 a brick or 10 cents a round.
     
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  5. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I have one lot of 40 buck shot shells that's under preforming, probably because it's 40 and not 50, or 100.
    So far buckshot and slugs have been going for between $2 and $3 per shot.
    The new 2020 buckshot I bought that I said I wasn't going to sell I might have to sell.
     
  6. reconprepper

    reconprepper Monkey

    I dont think ive ever had too much ammo and dont think I ever will. No matter the number it never seems to be enough. So I guess im an amateur then LOL
     
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Alright well last weekend was the 5.7x28 sell off.
    Based on the price tag still on the ammo, I doubled my money on average and then sone on a few thousand rounds.
    Smaller lots of 150 did the best.
    I could never get 5.7x28 ammo cheaper than dirt like I could with 9mm and 45acp or 38spl. The common stuff makes more money.
    Shot gun ammo is doing really well. People are realizing grandpas old dove reaper or duck blaster can be a weapon of war with the proper ammo.
    I'm going to scrap together everything that will make a big enough lot to sell and list it.
    I assumed 12 gauge was so common that everyone had buckshot and slug availability. Nope.
    I just wanted to off load 10 to 20 year old ammo and replace it with new ammo.
    Still have a lot of reloads that I can't sell.
    All the winchester and Remington buckshot and slug 12ga ammo so far went for between $2 and $3 a shot.
    The only one that underperformed was the PMC, but it was cheap inheritance ammo. It cleared enough to replace it's self with fed, rem or win ammo which I find very acceptable, 100 rounds should pay for 22lb of number 1 buckshot, the good plated stuff. Which would load something like 350 shells.
    For now I'm going to replace it with winchester AA shells reloaded with 00 buck, #1 buck, #4 buck, lead T shot, lead BBs and #2 birdshot. Yes number 2 lead birdshot is impressively brutal at inside the house ranges. To use it in a war zone would surely be a war crime.
    Have plenty of 209 primers, plethora of appropriate propellants and tons of wads.
    I don't have any number 1 buck yet but there is plety still in stock at ballistic products dot com.
     
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  8. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Well,Congratulations on putting the sausage to the ill prepared,

    Hey, If I had it, I'd be you're competitor !!!
     
  9. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Whats a bucket of Federal 22lr,36 grain,1100 rds going for...asking for a friend....
     
  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Cheap 22LR, like the made in Mexico stuff is going for 6 cents a round. US made is more like 10 cents, last time I checked.
     
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  11. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Actually, I'd not be selling.
    a seller could wind up:
    Shipping ammo into an area where it's restricted leaving yourself open to prosecution.
    Selling ammo to someone that going to use it to confront another monkey.
    Selling ammo at a great price not knowing that these are the lowest prices we are going to see for the next decade.

    And don't forget about trying to ship ammo without warning labels and packaged per regulations.

    Yeah, tempting as it sounds, our great grand kids might need the stuff.
     
  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Well 12 gauge ammo has only doubled in the last 20 years. But your main shotgun reload components, shot and wads have gone up like 4x over the same time.
    I'm not really worried about it.
    5.7x28 ammo has trended down over the last 12 years now that FN isn't the only manufacturer for the 5.7 guns and ammo. Used to be I couldn't touch it for less than $30 a box in 2008 ($36.27 when adjusted for inflation today), now I would occasionally see it under $25 as of a year ago.
    The only thing that's really gone up substantially is the cheaper than dirt milsurp.
    I can reload any thing I need. The only thing I can't reload that have is shotgun ammo smaller than 12ga and 45cult, for the insane 410/45 bond arms Derringer.
    A box of ammo is sufficient for the BAD (Bond Arms Derringer) since it's effective range is across a poker table.
     
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  13. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    What is 45 cult? I also have a Bond arms.45acp derringer. Mine has a lite hammer strick,but will shoot reloads ok[flag]
     
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  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The 45cult is the 45colt round and the cult that follows it.
    Often you see individuals who are set up for professional level manufacturing of the round.
     
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  15. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    I have two .45 colts,a smith Wesson and a Ruger .45 colt with the extra .45 acp cylinder
    [flag]
     
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  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I need to join the 45cult too.
    Get an 6 shooter (not right now, even SAO6 gun prices are stupid right now) and a set of dies.
    You have to drop down to altor level shit to come in under the stupid prices. Even the lifecard is bringing in up to $100 over MSRP if you can find one not going for a lot more.
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    There's a guy on gun broker from west bi god Virginia that listed a bunch of PDX1 .410 "self defense ammo".
    A lot of 20 is going for $2.25 a shot with 2 days left on the auction.
    I bought all of it when walmart put it on clearance 2 years ago think I paid about $2.50 a box. I know what I'm doing when I get home.
     
  18. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    You best have all your documentation for all these ammo purchases in the vault somewhere, cause THE BATFE might just visit and with all your reloading stuff on display, might want PROOF, That you are not OEMing this stuff for a Quick Buck, and doing so without a Class 6 FFL, and not paying the Taxes required...
    Just a note, here... It has been known to happen...
     
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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The atf can tell reloads from factory ammo. They're actually pretty good at investing tool markings. I thought they knew how to measure stuff until the honey badger tape measure fail.

    Plus almost all of the ammo I'm going to sell is already scattered across the country. Would I be expected to keep sales records proving I didn't sell reloads? How would that even be possible?
    How long would the records need to be maintained?
    I'm down to selling 22LR, yeah probably didn't reload those.... and 12 gauge, all my 12 gauge reloads look like shit compared to new ammo. They're soot stained, scorched and the crimp isn't perfect like you see on about 99.5% of cheap factory shells. There's 0 chance they would pass as new.
    5.7 ammo, FN never sold the bullets and there's no way to bring back that lacquer coated shell back to like new, the lacquer gets scorched and cracked and the shell is stretched to where it has to be trimmed after ever firing, so probably didn't reload those.
    Plus there's plenty of people on there selling reloads that don't appear to be sophisticated enough to have the reloading FFL to keep them busy.
    The guy who is selling new looking ammo in new looking boxes, head stamp on rounds and bullet description in the boxes appear to match what's on the box, some of the boxes are still sealed, probably leave that guy alone.
    The guy taking pictures of loose packed reloads in a unibomber shack who's listings use very poor grammar and probably can't afford a lawyer, maybe look at him.

    But yeah going forward I will keep the sales slips so I know precisely how much I'm pocketing and how long I sat on it. Plus proof of purchase will increase lot value.
    Which will be easy since I won't buy anything smaller than a case for the resale pile.

    I don't even think the ATF goes around and makes people prove they are innocent, that's a bit of a stretch even for them.
    So let's say I did have a proof of sale, if they operated on guilty until proven innocent then they could just say I measured the ammo powder charge and length, shot the ammo, found all the shells, saved the box, bought that bullet from the manufacturer matched the powder and primer the factory used, bought the factory style dies with out leaving any trace of doing so, flawlessly brought the ammo back to factory specs, destroyed the factory style dies, dumped out the remaining powder, ect, ect. So really a sales slip is useless at that level of deep statism.
    I guess the government could pass a retroactive law that makes it illegal to give or sell any ammo going back to 1776....
     
  20. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    Maybe the batbangers don't or won't, but the revenooers are another barrel of fish. Wah-chit.
     
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