Enough ammo

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by oldman11, Sep 18, 2020.


  1. Dannyboy53

    Dannyboy53 Monkey

    I used to order online in bulk but that has about dried up. Now we visit the local gun/knife shows and flea markets, been picking up .22 LR and .38/.357.
     
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Take her out and get her shooting. The excess will, um, diminish and she might send you to the LGS on
     
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  3. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Okay DW, Please school us a bit on the science of loading wax bullets. Primer only? light powder charge? Sounds like fun. :)
     
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  4. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    This is what you need. The casings are specific for wax rounds. 209 shotgun primers, and the bag of red balls is the wax rounds. For the record, the red ones suck. Gunk up the gun something awful and in the winter it gets brittle. I had a lot of rounds shatter on firing and a few completely bust up and jam in the barrel. We use the white now.
    20200921_141814.

    This is all it is. Casing, wax bullet, and primer. Moves about 600 fps I'm told so if you get hit with it, it's like being shot with a paintball. They are also VERY dirty so expect to clean that gun, your hands, and everything you touched after target practice. I have a number of steampunk cowgirl outfits for matches and it didn't take long to realize white was a very bad idea. :D

    20200921_141936.

    Just stick each in the appropriate end and load up. :)
    So easy I did this with my left hand.
     
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  5. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    I like that! Looks like great fun. Thank you for the video tutorial. I can make those and will figure out a wax mix that'll work. That women won't even have to share her kitchen. I can cook some wax on a Coleman stove, outside.
     
  6. Re: HotDigity #25. Please take care with hot wax. Melted parafin burns like gasoline and runs everywhere. I have a few thou of primers, but has anyone found any still available?
     
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  7. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Sportsmans Guide had surplus M1 Carbine rounds @1000 .38
     
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  8. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Primer availability has been an issue for my local Class VI reloader. He's sending all his brass off to be processed. It comes back cleaned, sized and primed. Hardly gives the Camdex machines anything to do, but it's the only way he's been able to get primers.

    We've been through this over and over since Y2K. Boston's Gun Bible is just over 20 years old. It's a little late to read it now.
     
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  9. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    There are links, that I'm "FORBIDDEN" from sharing that show pretty thorough tests with .38 Special wax bullets using unaltered and altered brass with standard and magnum pistol primers.

    I like the idea of using unaltered brass for wax bullets, because you can use it for standard loads later. Sounds like a subsonic round through a suppressor. I'm a tool guy and often reload at the firing line, so needing a hand press to decap and prime brass isn't an issue.
     
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  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I've found that primers are unobtainium. well unless you go on gunbroker and pay like 100USD per K (or more). Serious price gouging.
    EDIT -- it looks more like $150/K is now the going price.

    most decent size LGS that carry reloading supplies are out and have been for months.
    I was able to pick up some SPP at a really small one man operation. He had 900, I picked up a few hundred and left the rest for the next guy that finds him. I'll check back in a month or so, if they are still there, then I'll grab the rest.

    Projectiles are the next biggest issue unless you are running cast. Again, available on gunbroker but you'll pay the late to the party premium.

    At least powder and brass is still available.
     
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  11. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    Primers are out except .50 cal and 209's (spotty) or musket caps. Haven't had an issue with bullets yet and powder is spotty. LGS has zip.
     
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  12. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    Well stocked on factory stuff but always buying cases, powder primers and bullets when ever i find them.
     
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  13. wideym

    wideym Monkey+++

    It's gotten so bad at the shop, that I've had to bring in factory ammo from home just so we can have ammo to sell with the firearm. We limit it to one box of 9mm FMJ (50 or 100 round box at $19.95 and $39.95) with the purchase of a 9mm handgun, three 20 round boxes of .223/5.56 per purchase of those caliber rifles (enough to fill two 30 round mags). I've pretty much run out of cheap (FMJ and LRN) factory 9mm, .380, and .38spl to bring in, but I handload those calibers and have plenty of components.

    We still have plenty of .40S&W, .45ACP, and .38spl+P hollow points left though, and more cases of 7.62x39 and .308 than I care to think about. Still have plenty of pistols in every major caliber (9mm, .380, .45acp, 40s&w, .22lr) Mostly we ran out of the cheaper FMJ and LRN "practice" ammo.

    Some customers get pissy about us not selling them 9mm, .380, .223 etc.. ammo then they buy a firearm not in that caliber. Some feel they are entitled to every last round, even after bragging to us about the thousands of rounds they already have stashed at home. More of the "I got mine, too bad for you" mentality.
     
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  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I hear people are paying stupid amounts of money for 22LR again on gun broker.
     
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  15. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    LGS here has powder and primers. Ammo prices are through the roof though.
     
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  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Lots of new gun owners, not very many new reloaders.
     
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  17. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    I just looked on Ammoseek this morning to see what the havenots are paying now. That was a SHOCK!
     
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  18. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    People are going full retard.
    I found 5.7x28 once fired, dirty, fresh of the ground brass selling for over 30 cents a shell on gun broker.
    Hell at that price I should sell mine instead of reloading it.
    That buys about 2/3 of a loaded round when stuff isn't stupid.
    Ooh SS198LF that's the "restricted for military and law enforcement only" which is a marketing ploy to the mall ninjas, going for at least a buck fidy a round. For every one round of that I sell I can buy 3 rounds of the regular stuff when shit goes back to normal.
     
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  19. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    Wal mart has .30-30,.243,.270 for $17.95 box. They had a lot of 30-30 and very little of the other.
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  20. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    What if things NEVER go back to normal? Someday it's gonna happen! Better get the guns, ammo, gold, silver, food, etc. while you can...whatever the price! The competition isn't about getting a deal! Hell, the real competition doesn't even start until the SHTF!
     
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