Ron Paul this and that.....

Bashing ron paul ? Are you sure we are on the same planet here ? I challenge you to read my original post that started this thread. I only stated that 1 ron paul has an "aw-shucks" image to him as in "every other man". 2 ron paul is republican and 3 ron paul is from texas. How is that bashing him ?

Beyond that I only stated my opinion that I don't like texans and republicans based on the past 8 years of economic and political hell.

You speak of "published, peer reviewed, referenced, study " but yet you can't take the time to see if your own statements are accurate. Don't remember ? this statement "This thread was started purely to bash Dr. Paul" I'm not bashing ron paul at all I know little about him. You accuse me of something that is entirely of your own fabrication.

Let me clarify to you who I am bashing. B U S H is that clear enough ? Also the party that put him in the whitehouse. I have every right to feel this way after the past 8 years.

 

Interesting.... seems the issue is not the source. St Petersberg times, census.... it could be from God himself but if it is an opposing point of view it MUST be false.

Then personal attacks come out.... lableing someone a troll for what ? Saying something that is unpopular.

The Dixie Chicks were hung on a cross for what ? Saying the unpopular thing. The conservatives in their wisdom ignored the truth and gored the truthsayers. We now know that the Dixie Chicks were right.

I guess we are closer to a witch hunting nazi people than we care to admit ? Joseph McCarthy would be proud of some of you.


I made no personal attacks first, just making my views known. "Troll" "owned" those words are not mine.

I never voted for bush, I've defended the rights of those that could not on their own. I'm on the border every other weekend trying to help keep a few less drugs and illegals from coming across. I have friends that are far left and friends that are far right. I have defended both from the other side. My concience is clear, is yours ?

 

Minuteman, read my original post. It was meant to be "wow we are falling for the same aw-shucks routine that worked last time" statement. The personal attacks did not originate from me. I will however not mince words and if my opinion is such and such I will say so. When attacked most reasonable people will respond. Politicaly correct no longer works when it starts veiling the truth.

But if it is for the best I will refrain from posting views that are not right-wing-conservative. God forbid if a conservative ever hears that they are wrong in anything. I will just let our economic downfall, our global political disasters and our troop deaths speak for me.

 

I whole heartedly agree, and I hope this site stays that way.

I offer my apologies for any ill will caused by the tone of my previous comments.

 

That insinuation right or wrong it should be understood where it came from. I saw the bush disaster coming before he was elected the first time. I tried to tell everyone I know the reasons NOT to vote for him. My left-wing friends indirectly voted for bush by hitting the phones to get people to vote for that crack-pot Nader. Their reasoning was even if bush did get elected it will wreck this country enough to get people to open their eyes to the evil republicans. (their words) My own parents voted for bush. Now fast forward years later we all see the disaster. My left-wing friends see and admit to their stupidity in only HELPING bush through nader. All their greenparty fantasies are now grounded in the reality of a two party system. But the bush voters. I warned, desperately and they called me an idiot. Bush will save this country, make us stronger, turn the trade deficit into a surplus. Blah, blah, blah. Now these same people are telling me "don't dwell on the past". As if they commited no sin, bull pucky. It was not in the past while I was warning them. Trying to get them to see the light back then that they see now.

It is frustrating to be able to see something and understand something and not be able to get another person to understand. No matter hard I tried. The frustration builds and grows. It just became a sore point when these same people that would not listen back then now proclaim innocence. That they were "duped" Bull pucky. The entire story has been in front of them the entire time. Just like it had been in front of me the whole time. Now they procalim innocence ? The very same people that voted for bush now claim they have nothing to do with bush wrecking our country. Who let the monster in ?

That is where that insinuation came from. Right or wrong.


I've explained myself, now I'll just let the thread die.

 

The Problem I have is not with trashing Bush; he certainly is the issue. The problem is with blaming Texas for him and selling all the rest of that great State short. It wouldn't have made a bit of difference if Bush was from New Hampshire or Alabama, the man is an evil creation of the NWO. We blame the Republicans and that too is just an extension of the same evil master and we have to share the blame with the Democrats because they forced the issue with a choice between Al Gore and Bush. I am ashamed that the American people let Bush get elected but I did vote Liberitarian and not Republican inspite of my wife and familiy's commitment to the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil and when confronted with a choice between them, I still stand my ground. The good people of Texas have been on the fringe of succession for a number of years. They are not responsible for Bush lite, daddy Bush, or any of the other branches. Put the blame where is belongs, with our real masters.
IMHO blaming Texas for Bush is like blaming all black people for Jesse Jackson.

 

did not
did too
yo momma,
don be talkin bout momma
moron
makes no sense from behind a keyboard or face to face...

 

Agreed, when I hear folks blaming"rebublocrats" A) I shut down my hearing; I see it as a partisan waste of time. Which is exactly where harry reid,pelosi and other "congress critters live24/7. Nobody cares about fixing a problem (usually that that is not govs job anyway) if they can blame it on the other side. The citizens are rin the middle.We get a bloated expensive bureacracy discussing abortion subsidies for gay couples...

 

you gotta know surveys can be made to read exactly as expected depending on who writes the questionsandcounts the answers.....Does the lower"education" rating reflect people who could not afford to pay for a bs???? I submit a bs is not a guarantee of intelligence).I believe College educated folks tend to be more liberal (professors certainly are) (and shown here more condecending: you must be stupid not to vote the way I did. Which is exactly what this survey is implying.).

 

It seems we all have this in common, the fact that we see the masses blindly following leaders that do not have their good in mind. Politicos have promised them what they want to hear, only to promote another agenda once in office. It always is the same agenda, promoting globalisation. We have seen this over and over in history and it seems that people never learn. Hartage, I feel your frustation, that's why we all are wanting to survive this mess somehow. What is great is that we are able to "see it" and are preparing for what may come. This will take a concerted effort. Our members bring so many great ideas and inovations to light here. We have to realize that this forum is viewed by the whole world and the powers that be. We don't want to give the people the impressions they want to use against us because they are desperate, they know they are losing control. They are dumbfounded that people are flocking in droves to support the message of freedom and turning away from fearmongering and authoritarianism. We have have turned away for survival.

 

Oh nevermind, I'm supposed to shut my trap and let the thread die.