Boat, Plane, Walking, Car, Motorcycle,Bicycle,RV What is Your Best Way to Escape TEOTWAWKI

Speaking of ''buried'' caches
I was watch a metal detecting show on u-tube awhile back,These 2 guys detected a 5 gallon bucket buried.
They managed to get it out of the ground only to discover someone's cache.
Respectfully the bucket and contents were reburied....Something to think about.

 

Kind of tend to cut Ed G some slack. Those of us who are age or health challenged, have family who are not aboard with prepping, have jobs, kids in school, etc , that limit both our ability to bug out prior to some retreat location before an event, or to really prepare for the long run, or are tied in one way or another to the sheeple, are looking for all the advice we can get. The strongest comment I can make about this group, is that it is not lead by Rawles, overthink everything you do, and no one expects you to run out and buy a jet and a bunker in unarmed New Zealand, though I don't know how that will play out in the real world.

A lot of the comments here are either a show of support or simple ways to increase your chance of survival. I find great comfort in not being the only old fart that is rapidly loosing his options, need to be within 1/2 hour travel on 24 hour roads of a decent hospital or medical system, bugging out on foot to White or Green Mountains, both about 125 miles away, and surviving is not an option, etc. I hate to admit it to the group, but the one section I check every days are the humor posts. Sucker for those Hitlery post where she looks like either a witch or totally lost.

 

I fancy myself as an astute observer of people. Its grown from just a cursory interest to almost a hobby. As do other people who are hobbyists of one sort or another you develop an eye for things associated with it. I think I've developed an eye for those who will simply not survive during a total SHTF event of any significance, or maybe even a smaller regional one. It has nothing to do with age. Some of the toughest ones out there may have a lot of tread missing but have the knack for survival.
I attended a festival last weekend that was attended by thousands of others. Great opportunity to people watch. If what I observed was close to accurate there will be a lot of elbow room early on for those who know which way the wind blows and prepares for it.

 

I don't think it is a good idea to mention your own preps and situation as a solution for ed's dilemmas. OPSEC, ya sees, and someone watching might just determine that knowing where you are and what you have could serve as bait and bring them in. We know how easy it is to find someone. Paranoid, am I? I prefer to think it is careful with data.

 

Brings to another strategy,
Deliberately baiting.
This has gone on throughout time and likely to show up more common post SHTF.
The more desperate people become the more often the darker side appears.

 

I started going to local football games because my kids are involved. It is a fairly nice activity except for grownups? acting like total asses. it's easy to picture thousands of these people and others trying to kill you over food. Distance from people and snow and cold are things that would help me in an SHTF situation. Meth heads are the other group we have here in large numbers. I don't see them lasting long. when I drove the big truck I found the whole country has issues with these people. Here in the mountains, there are few if any fields of food growing. I think many will split or head for sheeple camps run by the gov. I think my greenhouses will become a magnet for hungry people and cause as many problems as it solves. Grow your own food and then defend it.

 

In SHTF....
If they can find me at my BOL and decide to evict me, I'll die defending it. Because if I'm evicted, I'm going to die anyway, only in a much slower and more torturous way. So if they want my BOL, it's going to cost. I'm an old fart anyway, with less and less to lose with each passing year.

Working on living there now! It's 17 miles from the nearest pavement and that doesn't get you any where near what you could call a town, let alone a city.

 

I have "Back Up BOL" that cannot be reached unless you fly in ( and have an aircraft capable of making it all that way, and landing there) or a pack horse/mule and weeks to travel to get to me, so I got that part covered! I only have to be able to get to the plane and make it my self!

 

My plans all took a set back.......if it all starts while I and tyreless........

 

Oh....that sucks

 

Time for an upgrade!

Heidenau K-60, the best true duel sport tire ever! Best upgrade I ever made!

 

.......this one is purely an offroader....I will get the biggest thickest nastiest knobbys I can. I need puncture resistance and grab in sticky mud more than about anything else.

 

You would do well down here
Louisiana Mudfest | One of the Wildest Parties in the South

 

I kinda live already in a place like where you plan to be. I'm part of a multi-generation old ethnic co-related farming community where just about every marriage has a tradesman, farmer, veteran or combinations.

We're not close to the interstate and abatis can easily close 90% of the roads in an out. This has been met with unofficial but widespread approval from the SD.

Only an idiot would bomb anything upwind of us and there aren't any railroads, factories, or nuke plants that are close enough to be a hazard.

If something crazy happened that made me bug out, I have a place about an hour and a half south of BFE to Alamo up at with spring water and rich bottomland soil in the arroyos to grow crops in the middle of a 30 section ranch.

 

The community aspect in a lot of ways may be the most important. I plan to make every effort to become part of my new community to become a known quantity that can be known, trusted and relied upon. It will take time and effort to not be seen as an outsider.

I see a bug out as a place where I can heal up, rearm, then come back to kill the sunzabitches that ran me out of my house in the first place. Lots of opportunities for that in my new AO. I've been thinking along the lines of a small shipping container semi buried to blend into a hillside, sort of a steel lined lockable cave.

 

Specific Location was not part of this question. Next!

Good point. I'm always afraid that the Government might try to Nuke the areas of trouble to prevent them from spreading

You're my new hero!

 

The other aspect of having to bug out is volcanic eruption such as the caldera in yellow stone. if your house cannot be buried in ash without crushing, you gota go. It is not like snow that melts it'a more like concrete that stays unless your shoveling it off as it comes.
And if it gets wet it's like moving slush that simply does not want to move. filtration for the home needs to be significant and you certainly do not want to breathe it. the dust is like pumas stone, it does not melt, it just stays there cutting away at the tissues.
A good simple tin roof is one's best bet.
Have a spare filter for your car's engine, if you hope to drive away during the event.

 

Idiot child was at the air base when Pinatubo blew. His car was under 4 (literally) feet of ash when things got settled down. After shoveling it out, the filters were nearly as good as new, it started right up. As far as we know, it's still running. He sold it to a local before he came home. There was no attempt to move it during the ashfall, was too busy caring for aircraft.

 

We know where you live, eddie. In any case, parking a road train in preparation for bugging out during an "event" will be difficult UNLESS you are already out of Dodge.