David McCann RIP. Agent Orange, Today another Vietnam Vet is being laid to rest.

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  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    David McCann Fought a long battle against Agent Orange, the short story is that he went to war as a 17year old kid, came in contact with AO as a Army Supply Specialist. Served in the non war zone (if you can believe that) of Thailand 70-72. Got an early out as the War was being put to rest. David Came home to start a new life but AO had done its work. AO Damaged his DNA and his Cardio Vascular system. Along his path of years of pain that ended Sunday 7-21-2019 he had a pump installed to aid his heart, then a Heart Transplant and all kinds of insults to his body and mind.

    But today we are still fighting the system to prove his claim and we will win.
    Next step is a CID Claim (Dependency and Indemnity Compensation - Compensation) to aid his Spouse.

    Never let anyone tell you Agent Orange was harmless.

    Sailors Rest Your Oars.
     
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  2. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Often wander if AO was responsible for my uncles early death.

    He was Air Force and did a tour in VN and one in Thailand..
     
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  3. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Cigarettes have probably killed more vets in the last few years.....
     
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  4. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    RIP Spec. David McCann
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  5. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I didn't know they used Agent Orange in Thailand... I knew it was used in both North and South Vietnam but not Thailand. Interesting...
     
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  6. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Many of the aircraft that dispersed AO, were based in Thailand...
     
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  7. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    In pain no more, may he rest in peace.

    @HK_User good luck with the fight to win what is rightfully his. You and your legion mates have a great record and are such a gift to those in the area.
     
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  8. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Also used in Cambodia. Less sure of Thailand, but would not be surprised in the least. Airbase exposure is near certain.
     
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  9. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    It came in mostly by ship at the Deep Water Port.
    Used by USAF and Army to wreck the triple canopy and on known trails.
    Yes I know way more than I'd like and I'll find the VA site.
    USAF Mechanics posted at runways end would get doused by the C123s as they came and went flying low and with their cockpit windows open.

    Thailand Military Bases and Agent Orange Exposure - Public Health
    Agent Orange Exposure From C-123 Aircraft | Veterans Affairs
    Did C-123 Aircrafts Spray Agent Orange During Vietnam War? | CCK Law
    Agent Orange - C-123K Aircrew & Maintainers - VA now honors our Agent Orange claims!

    All of these sites are subject to up dates when the AO Law comes into play.

    Da Nang Harbor Case - Hill & Ponton, P.A.
    05 June 2019
    Finally Official: Blue Water Navy Veterans Get Agent Orange Benefits!

    It is the biggest news since our own C-123 Veterans Association won benefits in
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    2015, and by far this news eclipses C-123 Veterans in the sheet numbers of veterans affected...perhaps as many as 90,000 Vietnam-era vets can now access vital benefits and health care.
    The decision by U.S. Solicitor General Noel Francisco ended months of uncertainty for tens of thousands of former service members or their survivors who may now be eligible for benefits stemming from exposure to Agent Orange. The benefits have been estimated to cost the Department of Veterans Affairs more than $1 billion over 10 years.
    “I am thrilled that the solicitor general has determined not to seek certiorari review,” said Mel Bostwick, a partner at Orrick Henderson & Sutcliffe who represented veteran Alfred Procopio pro bono. “While I have every confidence that the Supreme Court would have upheld the Federal Circuit’s sound decision, the choice by the solicitor and by Secretary [Robert] Wilkie to enforce the court’s ruling now means that deserving Vietnam veterans will not have to endure further delay or uncertainty before obtaining the benefits that they were promised decades ago.”
    In January, the so-called “blue water” Navy veterans, who served on ships within the 12-mile territorial sea of the Republic of Vietnam, secured a long-sought victory in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. The full court, ruling 9-2, said the Agent Orange Act of 1991 includes those veterans.
    Until the ruling by the full Federal Circuit, those veterans had been denied the presumption of Agent Orange exposure during the Vietnam War. The Justice Department, supporting the Department of Veterans Affairs’ interpretation, had argued that the Agent Orange Act covered only those veterans who served on the ground or inland waterways of Vietnam.
     
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  10. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    David Lynn McCann Obit
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    David Lynn McCann
    Monday, July 30th, 1951 - Sunday, July 21st, 2019
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    David Lynn McCann
    July 30, 1951—July 21, 2019

    David Lynn McCann, 67, of Stephenville, died Sunday, July 21, 2019 at his home surrounded by his family.

    Funeral services will be 10:00 AM Wednesday, July 24th at Stephenville Funeral Home Chapel with Richard Norman officiating. Burial will follow at Lower Green’s Creek Cemetery. Visitation will be 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM Tuesday at Stephenville Funeral Home.

    David was born on July 30, 1951 in Dublin to the late Jesse and Ella Marie Gillilan McCann. He attended public school in Stephenville. David married Jeannette Wilson on May 28, 1983 in Stephenville. He served in the U. S. Army in Vietnam. David was a member of the Carlton Baptist Church, and a lifelong resident of Erath County. He worked several years as a line supervisor at Rayloc and loved woodworking.

    David is survived by his wife, Jeannette; son, Ricky and his wife Carrie McCann; grandchildren, Macayla and Jerod McCann; brothers and sisters, Annie May Tudor, Janie and husband Joe Gilbreath, Danny McCann, Wayne McCann, Roy Joe and his wife Nellie McCann; several nieces and nephews; and great nieces and nephews

    Besides his parents, David was also preceded in death by a daughter, Candra Sue McCann; brothers, Bert McCann and James McCann; and sisters, Helen Adams and Katherine Pettey.
     
  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Operation Farmhand is where the rabbit hole begins, take the red pill and follow as far as you dare!
    Operation Ranch Hand - Wikipedia

    Ubon AFB, Thailand was a serious base, never mentioned, that played a major role in this Operation!
     
  12. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Agent Orange was used on Air Force bases in Thailand for perimeter vegetation control up until early May of 1975.

    All Air Force bases in Thailand belonged to the Thai government per agreement, and we were "invited" to be there. As such, the bases were named, followed up with "RTAFB" or Royal Thai Air Force Base.

    As a civilian contractor, I spent some time at one of them (Nakhon Phanom) in 1974.

    Like Ubon and Udorn, NKP hid a lot of covert actions by our government, including bombing runs into Cambodia and Laos that were never authorized by congress. We went into those countries at the request of their respective governments because the NVA were uninvited "guests" there.

    Of course, they never told us much when we were there, or even how the equipment that we were installing was being used. Much of it is now becoming declassified and it's pretty fascinating stuff.
     
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  13. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    As some have mentioned all of the Thai Operations were highly classified to a 50 Year Limit.
    And you might notice there is no mention of David's time, in his Obit, in the US Army. Yes he really did move drums of leaky AO and other herbicides at his duty stations. Most were shipped from the US and some were shipped from New Zealand
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  14. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    A bit of declassified information will also show that David McCann should have received a Combat Badge.

    http://det156sow.com/download/sapper72.pdf
    Attack of Udorn RTA 1972

    DECLASSIFIED . ". . , . • , ,~ c·, "",,"~, COJ:)bu~; 0pel"!.t.1.01 .... n After Action
     
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  15. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    Sad
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  16. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    As an example if a Blue Water Sailor was awarded Vietnam Medal with three stars they would have to look up the awards time line in a document that contains the awards by ship, time and location/operation. DD214 and DD215 can be your proof of time and place.

    We printed that document in 1992, some 500 pages, for it may not be found online.
    So at least we prove a Case of AO contact.
    Of coarse we have it available to assist Vets.
     
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  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I ran across an Air American pilot about a month ago,Interesting older gent!
     
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  18. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I could probably spend a good couple hours learning cool stuff from him over a beer or two.
     
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  19. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    As a relative you could access some of his records.
    The form is SF180 Standard Form 180 - Request for Military Records
     
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