With this unusual weather and the flooding across the country

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by arleigh, Mar 29, 2019.


  1. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    It has occurred t me that all this might seriously mess with food production for the whole country.
    Any one else aware of these issues and should there be any concern ?
     
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  2. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I've been wondering what the effects are going to be. I'm not sure if it's hurt any crops yet , but it's sure to delay , or stop this years production. Be prepared.
     
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  3. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Yes! Concern is due when the NE Sec of Ag claims a million calves have been lost...so far. Add to that the loss of grain production.

    Expect beef and cereals to go up after what's in the pipeline is gone...I would expect before summer starts.
     
  4. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Grow your own stuff, go vegan or hunt and fish, or go hungry, your choice.
     
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  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    All of the above,,,except go hungry,,,
     
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  6. Seepalaces

    Seepalaces Monkey+++

    My husband and I ran the numbers on this. They lost as many as a million calves, but that is less than one percent of our annual production. Am I missing something? Because we couldn't figure out how this would have an impact. How is the grain production being impacted?
     
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  7. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    The US produced 27.09 billion lbs. of beef in 2018 and exported 3.16 billion of it. That left 23.93 billion lbs. for domestic consumption.

    The average beef produces a 750-lb. carcass.

    Losing a million calves means losing 750,000,000 lbs of beef from the expected harvest. That's 0.75 billion lbs of beef.

    Exported beef is more profitable, so the domestic market will see a 3.13% shortfall.

    The shortfall will be used as an excuse to raise prices all out of proportion to the actual size of the shortfall. I'm guessing we'll see beef go up about 10% across the board until production stabilizes in 2020. (If full production is reestablished by 2020.)

    The average American consumes 222.2 lbs of beef a year from all sources including restaurants and fast-food.

    Restaurants and fast-food joints will pay more for their beef, and may pass that cost on to the customer with a scarcity price-bump of their own to not only maintain but increase their unit profitability.

    The 1/4-lb.beef patty in a fast-food hamburger presently costs between $1.94 and $1.05. It gets marked up anywhere from 454% to 484%.

    The 454% markup is for the upscale hamburgers with the $1.94 patty. They cost $14.00. Call them the Super Fineburgers.

    The 484% markup is for the McFastburgers with the $1.05 patty. They cost $9.00.

    Now, with the beef shortage, the cheap patty may cost (say) $1.14, get marked up again to $1.27 and bring the total production cost of the McFastburger to $2.08.

    That would bring the retail cost (with the same 484% markup across the board) to $10.07.

    Meanwhile, the Super Fineburger that costs $14.00 has a patty in it that cost $1.94. It may get marked up to $2.35 and bring the total production cost up to $3.49.

    That would bring the retail cost (with the same 454% markup across the board) to $15.85.

    The immediate result is that more people will eat fast-food hamburgers.

    These prices and markups are all Commiefonia 2018. I hope our mileage varies.

    They are also pure conjecture. The market does what it does, and only hindsight is 20/20.

    But you can be sure that whenever the threat of a shortage arises, some people will go into Lemming-Horde mode. They'll buy the product like it's going extinct.

    Many years ago, when manufactured shortages became the New Business Model, it was announced that there MIGHT be a shortage of raisins.

    A guy I knew who was otherwise pathetically normal and more intelligent than average, immediately went out and bought 40 lbs of raisins for personal consumption. I guess the manufactured peanut butter shortage that had just come and gone must have unhinged him in some fundamental way. Or maybe he was always like that.

    I figure, by now he should be down to about twenty lbs. I have no idea how much peanut butter he may still be workin' on.
     
  8. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    The spring rains are just beginning NOAA -
    No planting until the ground dries out some, this is going to bite all of us.
     
  9. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Epic -
     
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  10. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    Wait till all that water gets down here to Louisiana and Mississippi ,then add up all of the cost.
     
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  11. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    How many pregnant cows have been lost?
    How many cows have been lost?
    How many barns have been lost?
    How many tractors have been lost?
    How many farmers are homless, to say, home damaged beyond use until repaired.?
     
  12. deMolay

    deMolay Monkey+

    I posted the latest report on the flooding, on the thread Grand Solar Minimum, 2 days ago. Because this weather is typical of the change in weather patterns of a Grand Solar Minimum. It is going to be much worse than people think. The million calves is just Nebraska, there are 8 states involved. The flooding will impact hay and pasture fields and cropland. Many areas will not be able to plant this year. All grain/corn bins that were touched by the flood, the Gov has ordered the contents destroyed because of contamination.
     
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  13. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    These things tend to have a domino effect. Since this individual will now consume large amounts of peanut butter, there will soon be a shortage of laxatives.
     
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  14. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    We had a very wet winter here,I see plenty of calves already dropping and looking good on the hoof.
     
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  15. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    We will have a wet summer and plenty of hay.
    Hay will be cheap for local consumption.

    Alfalfa hay grown on land owned by the Saudis in Cali will produce good loads so the Saudis will take it home and use even more of the Colorado river water at a reduced rate thanks to a 1800 treaty with LAND OWNERS.

    So Saudis will not feel our loss of beef stock but they will take a profit from our loss.
    The Camel's nose is deep in the US Hip pocket.
     
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  16. TXKajun

    TXKajun Monkey+++

  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    One thing about rain,Rice,Crawfish and Sugar cane love it all !
     
  18. oldman11

    oldman11 Monkey+++

    Gator don’t forget about hogs,my nephew said he had about thirty in his yard nite before last. It’s about time to set my traps.
     
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  19. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    They don't like a lot of water! Whats good is we can shoot them off the levy's day or night depending where your at.
    Anytime you need to give those hogs a good flogging let me know,Some days I have free time,Some I don't !
     
  20. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Ain't nuffins wrong with a 50/50 mix of deer and pork chili... or burgers...or sausage...or?
     
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