active shooter drill?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldDude49, Feb 26, 2018.


  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

  2. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Sounds like the Las Vegas shooting where some one supposedly set off a package of fire crackers right before the shooting started.
    Why had we not heard anything about this before now?
     
  3. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    perhaps such things wouldn't fit the agenda?
     
  4. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I think if there was a drill and given that there were drills before and during America's 9/11 and Britain's 7/7 - well - I would bet one of the major media's would have posted something about it. My guess is it's someone trying to demean and degrade the pro-guns/2nd Amendment people by putting this into their heads so that the Libs can point and say "See! They're a bunch of redneck, paranoid gun fanatics!"
     
  5. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    that is a possible reason... stir things up keep everything muddy... etc...
     
  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I wouldn't put it past the anti's to actually start the shooting like say Los Vegas that we never hear anymore about.
     
  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Conspiracy theory. There is not now, nor ever will be, any proofs recorded and hidden on the planet nor witnesses alive or dead. Someone over dosed on hesheit's fave mood enhancer.
     
  8. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Someone posted this comment on another board... thought I'd share it here...

    From someone looking in from outside America your leftist policies sure looks like a Cloward–Piven strategy adapted to guns. Create easy opportunities for mass murderers. Sensationalize mass murderers to encourage copy cats. Block and demonize all other potential solutions and the people who advocate them in an effort to perpetuate the violence, and break down political resistance to gun control.
     
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  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Active shooter drills are the norm in this country, now. There's no conspiracy surrounding scheduled and planned active shooter drills. Even the hospitals train staff and run drills to receive large numbers of casualties.

    The part that often gets ignored is when an active drill is taking place at the time of the actual incident we all hear about and see when it's on the news. It also isn't for some time afterward we may learn of a drill taking place at the time of the actual event, but once in a while it's released by the media early on. This may also give "conspiracy theorists" a nugget to use, and is sometimes misrepresented due to bias. Nevertheless, there have been eerie similarities with most of these events, including mock attack drills and crisis actors which further adds to the hype of false flag ops taking place.

    Personally, I would go another route and check into the political leanings of the local sheriff and see if he's connected to the DNC or the Clinton's.
     
  10. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    See what you think of these articles.
    You know , I can't prove it , and I try not to believe that our .gov would sacrifice our children to push their agenda's , but if you look at some of the stuff posted on different tragedies around the country , it makes you wonder . But when you look at the things our country has done in and to other countries , govt. overthrows , etc ,things our country has done to it's own citizen's , Waco , Ruby Ridge , Benghazi . It's kind of hard to dispel any suspicions of .gov conspiracies at all .
    So now they're saying there was 4 cop's outside the school , just waiting for more cops to show up . Does this sound like any police force in our country ? , When they receive a call of possibly multiple dead and dying kids at a school ? Does it sound to you that 4 random cop's show up for the call , and just sit and shoot the shit outside , listening to the gunshot's , while kids are dying inside . I don't know , some thing's just don't add up .

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/25/us/sheriff-parkland-shooting.htmhttps://
    www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/02/26/how-obama-and-holder-changed-broward-county-law-enforcement-for-racial-reasons/
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  11. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    No connection whatsoever....... :rolleyes:

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  12. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Regrettably, it sounds like the majority of departments. One of the continuing things we hear is "Be careful out there, we all want to go home tonight." Along with wracking a perp, self preservation is included in SOPs. It is well worth noting that the usual PD is not expected to expose themselves without overwhelming superiority of manpower and equipment, ballsy TV cop shows to the contrary..

    The very only civilian departments that are trained to attack with minimum thought are fire departments, and even those know when to wait for backup.
     
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  13. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I can understand they all want to go home at night , and I want them to as well . And I'm not talking about ballsy TV shows , braving bullets and winning medals . I'm talking kids here . Standing there , hearing the shots thats killing these kids , and not doing nothing . How can they sleep at night knowing this . I couldn't . I'm not sure if this is the exact quote , but , " the worse action , is inaction " , seem's to fit here . Don't take this the wrong way Ghrit , I'm not attacking you , or saying your wrong , I just don't see how they could just do nothing , and live with it .
     
  14. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @SB21 "I just don't see how they could just do nothing , and live with it ."
    I hear you and have asked myself the same thing when I first heard about the rent-a-cop/security guard that was there and did nothing. He wasn't a real police officer but He did resign...then we find out there were 4 real police officers that did nothing? And, I am suppose to give my firearms up so these types can protect me and mine?

    Frankly, I don't know if I could go through life knowing that I had a gun in my hand and did not take any action that could have saved those children from being murdered. I think I would have preferred dying in the attempt.

    At the least, these officers need to be removed from the Department. And, if they were ordered to stand down then whoever gave that order needs to be removed. Furthermore, I hold the Sherriff responsible for lack of training and procedures that brought about the failure to move to immediate action. And, why hadn't the damn School District armed their teachers, strengthen the building and security...?
     
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    @SB21 I'm taking no stance on this, at least not yet. My statement was a sort of defense of the cops involved, not an accusation of cowardice or a failure of training. We do NOT know what their SOP was, nor do we have the least hint as to the comms that may have taken place. The only LEO that can be condemned at this point is that politician wearing a uniform; it is patently obvious that the clutch on his jaw was released WAY prematurely. The rest of them, well, there's a lot we do not yet know. The uniform that resigned probably made a good decision to get out of the blame game fallout zone. I still wonder if he quit from embarrassment or to avoid slamming his boss for improper direction.

    This whole thing is NOT over.
     
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  16. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    There were many many failures here beyond the shooter getting into the school. The on site Deputy security who was out side when the other 3 show up is a biggy, and then to sit there with their thumbs up their asses is inexcusable, despite any SOP or verbal comma from leadership! How could a man just stand around with a gun in his holster and cower behind the cruisers?!?!? Come on, really? Whay sort of man can do this and live with him self! I couldn' nor would I, even unarmed, I would have gone in there and took that shooter apart piece by piece!
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Putin sacrificed 300 children to push his agenda which is "don't f() €# with me".
    He did it with camera rolling, in front of the world and was unapologetic.
    Lots of rumors it was a false flag attack.
    I don't think our government is that much better.
     
  18. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Seems like that "school resource officer" didn't work out real well as a deterrent to a mentally disturbed student who planned his actions ahead of time. The local law enforcement is now so limited in their ability to react to stressful situations that many totally legal deaths are occurring. It is no longer permissible to wait out an intoxicated man who has made some wild statements and is holed up in his house, the first policeman to respond must call swat and escalate the scene into a major event or he will be left to hang out and dry if anything happens. With all the lawyers, black lives matter, domestic and sexual violence agendas, etc, the first duty of any police force is to be sure to CTA, law enforcement is a distant second. Don't have to be paranoid about active shooter drills, probably 3/4 of the schools in the USA will have one this month and try to panic all the students and parents into screaming for limiting gun ownership.
     
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  19. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @oil pan 4 The Moscow Theater Crisis (2002, 170 dead) and the Beslan School Massacre (2004, 334 dead) were definitely used to strengthen Russian Presidential powers. Russian politicians, like our own, never let a good crisis go to waste. Hell, they probably learned it from us. In this case, it allowed Putin to drop the hammer on Chechnya putting an end to what they call the '2nd Chechen War.'

    Saying this, I truly believe we will see some type Gun reform soon. I don't know what but we have a President that truly wants to do things instead of talk about them and a huge amount of anti-gun people. I think making a minimal age of 21 for purchase and/or possession of a firearm would be a bone among a few others that might satisfy. I say this fully realizing that an 18-yr old can join the military and carry a firearm in defense of their country; however, they are controlled and lead by older and more experience NCOs and Officers. For if they weren't, I believe, there would be many more war crimes and atrocities. When I first went into the Army, my old platoon sergeant, a Vietnam vet with numerous tours, told me nothing is more dangerous than an 18-yr old with an M16. And, he didn't mean it in a complementing manner...

    My greatest fear is this business about 'mental stability'? Who will determine it? How is it measured? If I get more than two traffic tickets in a year does that mean I am mentally unstable? What if I get a DUI/DWI? What if the grandma down the road saw me kick my dog? What if I get in a fight with my brother? What if I get into a heated argument with my neighbor? My point is if they want to dig enough there are always actions that someone can say is unstable. And, no, I do not trust the government to make a fair judgement. I am not referencing outright and/or specific insane/unsocial/unstable behavior but normal things that happen in life.
    Anyway, food for thought...
     
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  20. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    My daughter has been seeing a shrink for some anxiety issues for a few months. She called me this morning and said the shrink wants her to get counseling for PTSD. She said WTF. I told her every one of them b'tards is going to find something wrong with everyone on the street. I said she should have asked the shrink what his issues are , and how many pills he's eating a day.
    As far as I'm concerned , I'm the only sane sumbeach here , :ROFLMAO:
     
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