Active shooter - Las Vegas strip

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DKR, Oct 2, 2017.


  1. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned

    Yes, well, who is this "we"? The communist left/snowflakes who hate us and want us dead? You can go to most any left wing group web site and read what they put out for their own and THEY want us dead. There is no "we fellow Americans", if you are not one of "them" they want you dead. I have a tough time with "we fellow Americans" who are trying to kill me. Disarmed? I'm helpless and at the mercy of the people who hate America and didn't disarm, in short if that is any of us, once disarmed, we are dead. "Gulag Archipelago" ring any bells? As I recall, the winning side had guns, the slaves, victims and dead, you know, the "good guys", didn't. Remind me again how that worked out for them...

    Exactly what "they" (Soros - and we only know of him because he is the lowest man on the totem pole, communists, snowflakes, La Raza, Black Panthers, Southern Pov. Law Center, Demonrat Party - yes I AM serious about all of those, they ALL want complete and total control and do not care how they get it, I keep telling you, go read what they put out for their own! Or try testifying against Hitlery in front of Congress....) want. The sheeple cowering in fear behind walls and afraid to go out at night. Crowds? Oh no! A possible shooting! (Personally I hate crowds and avoid them, but not because I am afraid of them!) Can't go out, can't say anything (you know, like the Hitlery supporters who went out and killed their neighbors because they had TRUMP signs in their yard! Or ran over the Trump signs, or ... well you get the idea, if the left wants you dead some loonie will do it for them), everyone cowering in their houses waiting for the boogie man, Candyman or Pennyroyal or what ever, to come get them.

    I saw a comment about a "good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy." "Oh no.... if the good guy has a gun in a self-defense free/victim rich zone, he can not be a good guy! That might offend the murders and rapists if we fight back!" I had to laugh. Read "FARNAM'S FREEHOLD" by Heinlein for how that worked out for them. I guess the children of the cowards will be the slaves of the left as we wouldn't allow them in after getting an idiot/scum free zone set up for our area and throwing them out. May their chains rest lightly on them and may we forget they were once our fellow countrymen. Because they are NOT "our fellow countrymen".
     
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  2. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    Could be !1 Old white guy ! But I read elsewhere was a converted religion (wack or whatever) .

    Sloth
     
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    These was a TON of BS FAKE NEWS, last night, and still a lot of what is being reported this morning, was BS... The actual FACTs are still 24-36 Hours out...
     
  4. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned

    Hillary Clinton criticized the National Riffle Association on Monday morning while offering her condolences to the victims of a mass shooting in Las Vegas this weekend that left at least 50 people dead and more than 400 people injured. “Our grief isn’t enough,” the former Democratic Party presidential candidate tweeted. “We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.” Clinton’s statement was one of the most politically charged among prominent politicians who weighed in on social media in the hours after the attack. She writes in...


    http://variety.com/2017/music/news/h...ng-1202577732/
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    This from the dimokrat who put hundreds of firearms in the hands of mexican drug cartel soldiers that have used them to kill thousands of civilians and even our own boarder patrolmen?
     
  5. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    Hillary said what if he had a silencer??? Good God I hate her but she was right. If the guy had a suppressor?? He may have killed 500 and wounded 1000 or more. Ill keep that in mind. So what if he had a silencer??? would he have killed more?? Does this maggot Clinton finally have a point?? I MEAN SHE HAS MISSED THE BOAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER CRYING WOLF OVER EVERY CRISIS. But this time? Does this kill that bill in congress to make them legal?
     
  6. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    You would think that after all the wet work that has been done on behalf of the Clintons that she would know the limitations of a supressor.
     
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  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    It does NOT MATTER what the weapon was that did the killing, it only matters that a Demented Person with NO Record, and NO Reason for ANYONE to look at him, Nan not Do it Again... That is all that Matters, NOW... There is NO WAY such a Person can be STOPPED before hand... That is just the way it is, PERIOD...
     
  8. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Over the last month, there has been a series of small earthquakes between Las Vegas , Alamo and Caliente NV.

    Has Hell spring a leak? This shooter comes out of nowhere, no agenda, no presence on the web, no note left at room - nothing. And then he shows up after what looks like careful logistics & planning and shoots up a concert.

    So, has Hell sprung a leak?
     
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  9. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Would not have mattered. When people finally noticed the bodies dropping the outcome would have been the same. No way subsonics would have done the same damage 300 yards out, and full power .223 and especially .308 still make a lot of noise even suppressed. It is freaking amazing how quick the Dumbocrats have jumped on suppressors when there was not one used! Makes the whole damn thing suspect to me now where it didn't before.
    Two total idiots on Fox news this morning, one a nurse claiming that "automatic bullets are designed to explode in the body" and a Democrap Commiefornia senator or congressman talking about how a silencer would have made it so much worse.
    I don't think a totally silenced anything could have made it worse as this guy unloaded right up until he checked himself out.

    Please don't ever think that old bag could be right about anything, it's the first step to mental illness.
     
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  10. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Around 115 dbs for the 223, 308 at about 134 dbs, They are already legal here, Just that we have to wait 8/14 months for the stamp to clear.
     
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  11. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Pure cowardly evil.
    I have no words. I wish others shared that feeling.
     
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  12. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    The communists (Democrats) could care less about facts. Facts are totally irrelevant to them, control is what matters, and them being in control is paramount. Hillary is just as evil as Stalin, but far far too many so called Americans think she is the second coming. Those are the ones that are unable to think for themselves and are totally unprepared to do ANYTHING for themselves - a half nation of zombies and they are pissed that the rest of us are still alive.
     
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  13. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    It's a seriously bad event for sure, but remember,
    "Never allow a good crises to go to waste!"
    Whether intended or not, this is being used to push more gun control by the Usual Suspects. No surprise.
    Also it makes for some great "smoke &mirrors". What is being pushed behind the billowing smoke as our collective attention is set in Lost Wages?
     
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  14. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Do we know anything more about
    -the arsenal?
    -the casualty count and conditions?
    -the rumored mozzy connection?
    -FA or not FA?

    Or is the knowledge (as vs. speculation) still not clearly available?
     
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  15. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    The rifles included AR-15's and AK-47's. This was per the FBI in one article I read, but then again any gun becomes either of those types to a reporter no matter what you say:

    Kid: I shot the squirrel with a pellet gun.
    Reporter: Was that an AR-15 or an AK-47 pellet gun?​

    Outside of that not much other than two rifles were mounted on tripods. Don't know yet if there were other types or if any were actually machine guns.
     
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  16. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    That alone puts the question: Did that reporter know the difference between a tripod (uncommon with rifles) or bipod (very common on rifles) or a bundle of shooting sticks?
     
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  17. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    I've heard tripods from several sources. There are tripods for rifle use from a fixed position so the shooter can stand. Shooting into a dense crowd like that there really isn't a need for either.
     
  18. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    If you see, in EARLY Reporting, the same phraseology, you can BET that they all got their NEWS from the same source, and are just repeating it for their own Outfit.... Just like the stories that had this guy a recent convert to Islam, and THEN it disappears completely when his Brother says he had NO Religion, and NO Political Bent.... The guy had the money to do whatever he wanted, NO Criminal History AT ALL, so he could buy whatever he wanted... Lots of BumpFire MODed weapons... and maybe ONE Self-MODed FullAuto... He lived in Nevada where FullAuto is Legal, with a Stamp, but ATF hasn't said He was an NFA Owner, so it is likely that the ONE FullAuto was NOT NFA.... This is the GUY, that ALL LE Fears... A perfect Citizen, Totally Under the RADAR, and just does something Despicable, for NO KNOWN REASON... You can't Stop these Guys, because you do NOT KNOW who they are Until after the FACT, and then it is to late.... ALL that can be done with them is to KILL them, so they can NOT Repeat....
     
  19. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

  20. Itchba

    Itchba Monkey++


    From what I understand, they found him because the smoke detector went off. Would a silencer have eliminated the smoke? Also, even with the noise, in a few of the videos some people thought it was fireworks from the reactions I saw. It looked like the screaming of people hit, or the ones near someone that was hit finally clued them in.

    Also, while I do not have the knowledge base to explain how Hilary is ignorant on this point it seems like someone should explain it somewhere that educates her, and her cult. They probably won't listen but the fact that they are the only voice I've heard in most of the postings I'm seeing seems wrong. I'm assuming, and I usually make an azz of myself when I do, that most are like me and damn frustrated with trying to explain to them the difference between their azz and a hole in the ground!
     
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