Survivalists Combat Issue.

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by M118LR, May 10, 2017.


  1. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    chelloveck, that was really quite well worded.

    arliegh, neoprene drysuit.

    ax, is there any GI more minimalist?

    duane, it is said that time and tide wait for no man. Yet I have a 93 year old relative that swims a mile every day in the nursing home pool, when someone can guide him down to it so that he doesn't forget the way.

    The crux of the biscuit, is that mere men outfitted with only such minimal gear survived the hazards of combat in WWII, Korea,Nam, and more. Not everyone is going to be able to replicate the physical prowess of those men, but it should be possible for most to replicate the education/training & therefore ingenuity to survive. (ie) As BTPost stated it would be tough going without foot wear, yet rubber feet are part of even this minimum issue. Either you cut away the excess rubber fin, or use part of the fin to make sandals. Survival starts with the mind. JMO.

    So how does your emergency egress kit match-up with the Thru-Hiker"s Handbook?
    We are talking minimal gear and maximum ingenuity. Can you trek from coast to coast, or stem to stern, during combat conditions?
     
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  2. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    NOt my minimal gear choices, but there are things you could do with it. Also wasted in AO. Almost nothing long or deep enough to require it, and I ain;t swimming in the rest. Haha.
     
  3. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I love to swim and dive ,both snorkel and air assisted (not scuba) .
    Most of my swimming was in a lake and at times there was ice on the surface and i wore a double suit for the task .
    The deeper you go the colder it gets, and the less you can see. a flashlight is almost useless and work has to be done blind.
    I can't even imagine swimming in freezing salt water, even colder .
    Conditions change constantly under water cloudy and dark to filled with weeds and stuff that gets tangled in every thing, fishing line is the worst. I never enter water with out a knife .
    The idea of combat survivlism and dealing with crossing water , i would be more inclined toward escape, not attack .
    And at that, you'd want your gear to be bobbing just below the surface, and using a snorkel, and compass so you can keep your head down.
    That and you'd need water proof binoculars, or infrared to scan area your headed toward. What you see at one point, can change while in the water making your way ,and you could be in the water longer than expected, due to those changes. .
     
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  4. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    I've been considering one of those PVC or Aluminum bows for use when doing stuff in this vain, reduce the maintenance and care as it were. Any thoughts?
     
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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I have a 60 year old aluminum bow, non working recurve. They do NOT deteriorate, and do tend to run heavy even back then.
     
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  6. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    I believe the Buff Boy's have, still use a compass: Combat-Divers.
     
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  7. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Analogue no less.(y)
     
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  8. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Keep It Simple Stupid, KISS principal. Old Government acronym.
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    The answer to lightening your loadout for those who live on land, is to learn more improvisational skill sets and bushcrafting.

    We ought to remember a soldier is taught to a standard set by the military, and this maintains a high level of proficiency. We also mustn't forget the soldier, who may very well be well trained and motivated, always had a logistic line waiting for him in the rear in the eventuality he could complete his mission. After weeks and months of grinding for Uncle Sam in theater of operation, that SOB is headed straight to the tiki bar for a mai tai and a foot massage. If we're talking long term survival, and not just that, but thriving in perpetuity --the vast majority of people, by default, are supremely under qualified. The concept in mind is long term survival in what can possibly be described as hostile conditions. The subject would have no support system, not a single vacation, no reprieve from what reality imposes. What, then would be the required "basic load out" for long term survival and thriving in hostile terrain? (assuming of course you are not in the middle of the Pacific god damned ocean and require rubber foot propellers)

    Body armor? What good is body armor to a fool who may not even know the importance of remaining undetected.

    Guns? Always great to have, best not to get caught unaware or supremely outnumbered, though.

    Carry bag, deodorant, MRE? I am certain you feel safer with your kit, but if it doesn't directly add to completing your mission, it's only fluff-n-stuff.

    The answer would be determined by your skill level, the environment in which you will operate, and the full extent of your mission parameters (i.e. what you plan on doing).
     
  10. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Brokor, you bring up the dark side. That thriving & surviving in perpetuity. It's politely called foraging, or to the Victor goes the spoils, but a well trained combatant is taught to resupply outside the normal logistic line. The longer the time frame the harder the targets will become, eventually the only prey left for the wolves shall be other wolves.
     
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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Tough life. Safe to say most don't know just how rough it can be. I'll admit I like the soft life, it's easy and comfortable --nothing wrong with admitting it. I have purposefully fasted for weeks, and for years now I eat one large meal and one small meal or snack only. It's not a matter of "if", but "when" hardship arrives, it's gonna hit like a sledge hammer. Wolves eating wolves, indeed.
     
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  12. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    Out here in the woods? there be monsters. And they are mine.
     
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  13. D2wing

    D2wing Monkey+

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  14. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    That's strange, those were the only items I was issued when inserted into the South China Sea. Isn't it strange how tours to the same location can be so different.
     
  15. D2wing

    D2wing Monkey+

    Well I was in the military, not the Navy. We wore combat boots and had guns.
     
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  16. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Making footwear from stuff is not that easy. I bought a couple of old purses at the thrift and tried to make sandals. Really easy in ones head but not so easy in reality. No problem making the soles but the issue was getting something to hold them to my feet. The flippers you posted one would think would be easy to make footwear out of but the insert part of the flipper only covers the front half of your foot. Somehow one needs to figure out how to protect their heels.
     
  17. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    There is allot of extra material.
    UDT_duck_fin.
     
  18. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Yeah there is but how would one attach it to the existing in order to protect your feet. The items you showed in post one, do not leave much help. So looking at those flippers, I would think the flapper part would be the sole and the insert part will have to be rigged to hold it to your foot. @M118LR have you tried to make footwear out of these?
     
  19. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    This was my Combat Footwear Motomom34. Once the Hostilities had ended, I was selected to take photographs based upon my experience and my small yet wide foot size. (Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but size 6 EEEE footprints with your Ho Chi Mann Sandals) Tailor a couple of Dunlap Tires into footwear to blend in with the indigenous population! There is another level of creativeness when your life depends upon it? Back then it wasn't a training exercise, you either did or didn't survive based upon how you rigged the materials at hand. Get Creative!!!!!!!
     
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  20. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    As I recall, wasn't there a Class on improvised Footwear, in BUDs School?
     
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