Can someone explain this to me?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RightHand, Apr 30, 2015.


  1. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    It does remind me of what people find offensive. In New England, tough old broad is a badge of honor, something earned day by day until the queen status is attained. In other parts of the country, it's perceived as an insult. I've been known as the TOB (tough old broad) and then the much more elusive SOB (sexy old broad) since I was in my 30's. Mike even has a picture in his office of another one of the gals and I with the text "every shop needs at least one tough old broad"
     
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  2. vonslob

    vonslob Monkey++

    @RightHand [dunno] I guess thug is too strong a word to describe the typical liberal watcher of msnbc

    edit: ohh now I get it thug is racist word
     
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  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Once knew a Coonass that had the best boudin in or out of the swamps. He'd come to my shop and I'd fix his gear, most often the gift he brought covered the work.

    I remember the time we took my Mom to Galveston and a group of folks were crabbing along the water front. I went over and talked to them for some time and when I got back my mom ask "What language were you speaking?"

    I laughed and told her "Coonass" she was instantly offended that I said that word until I explained that I was answering her question and not calling someone else names.

    It's all in the delivery and the intent, not the wordage. God I miss that boudin and that Ol' Coonass.

    I was once called a Zealot and after the fella did not get a reaction I realized he considered zealot to be a dirty word. I just told him thanks. You're right I have a strong opinion and am dedicated to my people. You might say, after that, I broke it off in him every chance I got.

    It's all in the delivery and the intent, not the wordage.
     
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I think anymore Thug means unemployed young socialist democrat whom has no intention of gainful employment.
     
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  5. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Delivery, and intent do matter, but the words do as well.
    Specific words has specific meanings. Even names.
    Cedric means kingly, while Lawrence means lawful, and Cassandra means bringer of doom.
    Our Navy is now not "escorting " ships since Iran siezed one, but " accompanying" them, which has a completely deffrent meaning. Even to the Navy.
     
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  6. JLRhiner

    JLRhiner Stranger in the Modern World

    It was my understanding that the term "thug" was self identifying. Just like "N".
     
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  7. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member


    A second response in the current USA media world.......NO I do not understand many things. But I have so many things that will protect me from the things that have perverted the real American dream.
     
  8. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    We can look back to recent history in our country where certain ATF tactics such as storming into citizens' homes, knocking over furniture and stomping on house kitties earned that outfit the nickname of government "jack-booted THUGS".

    Then, if we look to some state elections of recent history, most likely Wisconsin (where the good guys managed to win anyway), and Illinois (where the bad guys still rule in the large population centers), we have the heavy-handed election intimidation tactics of "those union THUGS".

    So, there is no racial, or ethnic component attached to the use of the word "thug" in either of those examples. The common thread in the two examples cited is the brutish behavior with violent tendencies from the thugs involved.

    It appears that there are some folks in the left-leaning media that want to further codify the English language by invoking fear of being labeled a racist by redefining the boundaries in the use of a perfectly good and descriptive word that has a long race-neutral history, as we have already discussed.
     
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  9. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Well said Capt. Tyree :5s:
     
  10. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    A spade is still a spade, a thug is still a thug... No matter how you spin it.

    IM always amazed at how manipulative left wingers get trying to use guilt and shame to move people off the actual issues like thuggery....

    Leftist claim to be so pc and give the appearance of caring about others. But instead of having a conversation about the real issues they pull focus to a word instead of the actual actions....

    Ty leftist media for being so caring that you are willing to try to shame others by trying to control the words rather than dealing with the actions of thugs.
     
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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    We unfortunately live in an age when words do not necessarily mean what they have traditionally meant. Now, a word can mean only what is popular and commonly believed to describe, since the power of self-thought was replaced, in large part by Google searches and corporate media propaganda. Of course, the word "thug" is racist if the media says it is. Just like workplace bullying and harassment is defined by the person who is offended, those who feel offended must be catered to by those who wish to use the event as a means to justify their existence as controllers of thought. Its a new age where government can tell you what to think, because they can.

    I believe my signature quote sums it up nicely in regards to how sick society can become.
     
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  12. Gray Wolf

    Gray Wolf Monkey+++

    No problem. If we can't use the word "Thug" any more, Hoodlum will suffice. How about "Amoral Sociopath"?
     
  13. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Do NOT forget my "NEA Thugs". They epitomize the term THUGs... And they come in all Racial, Religious, Ethnic, and Sizes... AND they ALL, Preach the Liberal Cause....
     
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  14. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    As someone who fancies himself as a bit of a wordsmith....I think I understand what is going on here. This is the state controlled media trying to create a viral meme...and they are terrible at it.
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  15. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Hey RH, this article didn't get you started on this did it?
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    Call a thug ‘a thug’
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    If you looted, stole, robbed, assaulted and/or set fire to something/someone in Baltimore, you’re a thug. Torching the neighborhood pharmacy doesn’t make you a revolutionary. Stealing Air Jordans from the local shoe store is not a cry of freedom. And throwing trash cans at passersby will not release you from the bonds of – whatever bonds you believe are holding you back.

    A coordinated effort to resist the increasingly militarized storm troopers employed by the government to crush the life out of liberty is social activism. Throwing a brick at tourists who made a wrong turn on the way to Inner Harbor is not.

    There’s no nobility in wanton destruction. And pretending otherwise diminishes the sacrifices made by those who were actually motivated by the greater good. Looters, thieves and violent savages not only deserve no respect, attempts to suggest otherwise elevate them beyond their station at the expense of those who manage to challenge the forces of tyranny without looting the Sports Mart. Acting as if Thuggy McThuggerston pinching Pringles from the Quik-E-Mart is “sticking it to the Man” makes a mockery of those who “stuck it to the Man” without knocking over a convenience store.

    It’s time to stop parsing words in order to provide cover for the parasite class. “Thug” is not a racial slur. It doesn’t take a genius to notice there were white punks gleefully taking part in the Baltimore carnage; although I can’t attest to what percentage were there on the latest edition of the George Soros Loot-n-Burn scholarships.

    In ascribing racial animus to “thug,” the left is actually asserting a moral and logical vertex between “thug” and “black.” The only people who seem to be fixated on a racial undertone are the liberals. I believe the textbooks call that “projection.” Hey Democrats: not all looters are black. And you’re the only ones who seem to think otherwise. Check with President Barack Obama and Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake. They have both quite comfortably described the rioters in Baltimore as “thugs.” And if they don’t convince you to climb off your racist donkeys, ask Baltimore City Councilman – and black man – Carl Stokes. He rocketed past “thug” on his way to “n*gger” during a recent appearance on CNN.

    There are no Horatios at the bridge amongst the looters. And those who have stood up in the midst of the chaos to demand even slight return to human decency have become targets of ridicule, threats or worse.

    Toya Graham, the “mom of the year” who publicly took her son to the woodshed after catching him joining the thug brigades, has been singled out for criticism; with some of the same liberals who cheered the rioters suggesting she face criminal charges for smacking Junior upside his head. Even longtime Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings, who took a break from whining about the racism inherent in expecting the Obama Administration actually adhere to the rule of law, discovered firsthand how interested the rioters are in social justice when his pleas for calm were loudly rejected by his own constituents.

    The real story of Baltimore is the same as the stories of Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis, Oakland and pretty much every American city overrun with crime, poverty and despair. They’re all run by Democrats; and have all been run by Democrats for decades. Baltimore has elected precisely one non-Democrat to the city’s highest office in nearly 70 years, and that one was 50+ years ago.

    There is no doubt that the government has grown into precisely the sort of menace the Founding Fathers warned us about. The litany of abuses by federal, state and local authorities, much of which has been dutifully recounted by the Personal Liberty Digest™, is longer than the “shady foreign donations” section of the Clinton Global Foundation’s bank statement.

    The suffering inflicted on the people by the increasingly arrogant state has cost us more than the Qatari Royal Family blew on buying Al Gore’s failed TV channel. Acting like an overgrown 12-year-old not only does nothing to advance to the defense of liberty, it provides the state with precisely the justification it needs to exert even greater control.

    If you want to make a statement against the arrogant tyranny of government, raise your voice when the government acts arrogantly tyrannical. IRS political targeting, job-and-business killing regulations and Obamacare are excellent examples; arresting thugs for setting their own neighborhoods on fire – again – is not.

    -Ben Crystal

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  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Of course, Australian hooligans and devotees to Kali would be known as Thuggees with puggarees! ; )
     
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  17. madmax

    madmax Far right. Bipolar. Veteran. Don't push me.

    whew kellory. You don't know how much I'ld like to say about that post. Still the FNG though.

    I'll go this far. I have a problem with the gangsta CULTURE. I have a problem with the extremists Muslums (really a big problem) CULTURE. Culture. Not what race you are.

    OK got the tone now.

    Down here in FL a Cracker refers to a FL cowboy or a many generation FL native born and bred. They are proud of that label. Cracker came about because the cowboys would herd the cattle on horseback and crack a whip OVER not ON the cattlles' backs,

    I got called a cracker once. I said thank you but I'm not qualified to wear that moniker.
     
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  18. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    If you have something to say, that offend someone else, you could PM it. I'm thick skinned, and it will not bother me. And since I speak from personal experience in Crypts terror-tory, feel free to speak your mind.
     
  19. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    That's exactly what I mean about regional monikers not being interpreted in the same way by outsiders. A New England TOB has earned her stripes and its a casual term of respect the same as your "cracker" probably is in your area.

    The internet allows us to glimpse into the world at large and the culture of others but without a foundation of regional vernacular, misunderstandings can occur. Its always helpful when someone turns on the light.
     
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  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    And the answer to the original post

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